Hyperion vs. Ultraman

Originally posted by TheHulkster
You can't make things up to fit your argument.

No, that's your job.

They don't stop the ship and you can't cite anywhere where it is stated nor implied that they stop it. They are shown flying into the side of it and push it clear of Earth. They don't stop it.

They stopped the ship and pushed it away from Earth. It wasn't falling sideways to Earth and there is no way to push it away from Earth other than stopping it and then pushing it away in opposite direction.

Hyperion needs Thor's help because he needs Thor to strike the anchor while his is busy holding the planet he has just stopped.

No, he needed Thor's help to phase the planet as it was still moving and merge it with the earth.

Hyperion wasn't able to stop it completely otherwise they wouldn't need to merge it with the Earth.

The planet was phased anyway.

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All Hyperion did was slow it down and then they merged it with Earth.

And how do you conclude from "reestablish symmetry" that they are pulling the multiverse at once?

Because the multiverse itself was drawn in the black hole at the end of existence.

And the multiverse was linked with the prime earth. When they pulled the prime earth outside the black hole, they pulled the rest of the multiverse out as well.

Do you know what symmetry means? They are repositioning the Earths in a uniform way. And those 52 Supermen are aided by hundreds or thousands or more Green Lanterns and it apparently takes that many to move each Earth.

There were only half a dozen GLs at the black hole when they pulled the earth and multiverse outside the black hole.

Not thousands of GLs.

Read the comic first befor making shit up.

Lol...they didn't stop the ship. They pushed it clear from Earth.

We pushed the ship clear Superman.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11114/111142337/4282402-superman+and+martian+manhunter+pushes+a+mothership+part+3.jpg

Originally posted by carver9
Lol...they didn't stop the ship. They pushed it clear from Earth.

Originally posted by carver9
We pushed the ship clear Superman.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11114/111142337/4282402-superman+and+martian+manhunter+pushes+a+mothership+part+3.jpg

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Originally posted by abhilegend
And that could only be done after they stopped the ship colliding with Earth.

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Nothing was ever said of them stopping the ship. Nothing. They pushed the head of the ship clear from the planet. They pushed it from the side of the ship (the head...no homo). Lets not make up fts.

Originally posted by abhilegend
No, that's your job.

No. it's not my job to make stuff up to fit your arguments.

They stopped the ship and pushed it away from Earth. It wasn't falling sideways to Earth and there is no way to push it away from Earth other than stopping it and then pushing it away in opposite direction.

No one said its falling sideways. You're not understanding. They push it from the side in order to move it over enough to miss Earth.

No, he needed Thor's help to phase the planet as it was still moving and merge it with the earth.

Hyperion wasn't able to stop it completely otherwise they wouldn't need to merge it with the Earth.

The purpose of merging it with Earth is to utilize it for power. Hyperion stops it and holds it in place while Thor tethers it.

All Hyperion did was slow it down and then they merged it with Earth.

He is shown clearly stopping it.

Because the multiverse itself was drawn in the black hole at the end of existence.

And the multiverse was linked with the prime earth. When they pulled the prime earth outside the black hole, they pulled the rest of the multiverse out as well.

The monitors state that the multiverse is under repair. The are rearranging for symmetry. All of them are pulling individual planets to appropriate locations. What you are saying is another reach.

There were only half a dozen GLs at the black hole when they pulled the earth and multiverse outside the black hole.

Not thousands of GLs.

Read the comic first befor making shit up.

That's what you see on panel. It could be more and we see dots in the background representing more heroes.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
No. it's not my job to make stuff up to fit your arguments.

No your job is to make shit up to lowball any feat from a DC character.

No one said its falling sideways. You're not understanding. They push it from the side in order to move it over enough to miss Earth.

But that's simply not possible. The ship was bigger than Earth.

Pushing it sideways wouldn't work and was never implied. Aka making shit up.

The purpose of merging it with Earth is to utilize it for power. Hyperion stops it and holds it in place while Thor tethers it.

If Hyperion could simply stop it, there wouldn't have been need to prep for months, phase the planet out and Hyperion needing Thor to tether it. He could've simply moved it to Earth and merge it.

That's not what happened. Hyperion momentarily slowed the planet down and using its momentum Avengers merged it with Earth.

He is shown clearly stopping it.

No, he is not.

If he was how did the planet moved in same space as Earth?

The monitors state that the multiverse is under repair. The are rearranging for symmetry.

Nix flat out says that the heroes repaired multiverse.

This denial is amusing.

All of them are pulling individual planets to appropriate locations. What you are saying is another reach.

Only you can reach to that conclusion after so many times education from me.

No, they are not moving individual planets.

That's what you see on panel. It could be more and we see dots in the background representing more heroes.

Haha, yeah you're just making shit up now.

Someone wrote something extremely well about the Hyperion ft when people were saying the planet was slowed down by Hyperion (even though he stopped it. Here it is...

I am not sure you understand the difference, its 2 different feat, dont think you can compare each other numerically per say, but its not going to be any easier to even slow down something that big travelling that fast.

As per could Hyperion push the panel, specially had it not been travelling at something that ridiculously fast, i dont know but most likely we will never know.

Remember, Tom Brevroot, who is Hickman's senior editor, who has to actually check and accept anything Hickman writers before it can be published heavily criticized Superman feat, because as per Brevroot, the feat was just done to show Superman strength, not to actually serve the story. Had Superman somehow benchpressed the planet to save lives that feat , at least to Brevroot would be acceptable.

Now whether Hickman or us readers, like it or not, Brevroot wont allow Hickman to simply have Hyperion bench press a planet, its only scenarios like this that is going to be allowed.

Given that , the feat itself is very damn impressive. If you really want to do a calculation you need to somehow assume at what speed didi Hyperion hold the planet, even if the planet after Hyperion touched it was moving something ridiculious like 100 miles per hour, that a acceleration by something ridiculous like 499,900 miles per hours, which will take something ridiculious like 2.98 * e^30 Newtons to actually stop it.

Thats equivalent to lifting a weight of 3.31 * 10 ^29 Kilos (assuming the rogue planet is anywhere close to say the weight of the Earth), that equivalent of lifting something ridiculious like 5,500 times the weight of a planet.

But thats just rogue calculation, in short what i am trying to say is, you are not fully considering the difference the massive speed of the said rogue planet makes.

Originally posted by abhilegend
[B]No your job is to make shit up to lowball any feat from a DC character.

If that's not the pot calling the kettle black?

But that's simply not possible. The ship was bigger than Earth.

What difference does that make?

Pushing it sideways wouldn't work and was never implied. Aka making shit up.

It's flat out shown in the image.

If Hyperion could simply stop it, there wouldn't have been need to prep for months, phase the planet out and Hyperion needing Thor to tether it. He could've simply moved it to Earth and merge it.

Why the need to move it to Earth when it's already headed straight for it as planned?

That's not what happened. Hyperion momentarily slowed the planet down and using its momentum Avengers merged it with Earth.

Did you read the book? Overlap with Earth occurs before Hyperion catches it. Hyperion catches it in order to stop it from overshooting. He stops it.

No, he is not.

If he was how did the planet moved in same space as Earth?

It moves there on its own since that is the direction it is flying at 500,000 miles per hour. Hyperion stops it from overshooting so Thor can anchor it.

Nix flat out says that the heroes repaired multiverse.

This denial is amusing.

You just repeated what I said.

Only you can reach to that conclusion after so many times education from me.

No, they are not moving individual planets.

Your "so many times education"😆 is faulty. Moving individual planets is what they are doing.

Originally posted by carver9
Someone wrote something extremely well about the Hyperion ft when people were saying the planet was slowed down by Hyperion (even though he stopped it. Here it is...

I am not sure you understand the difference, its 2 different feat, dont think you can compare each other numerically per say, but its not going to be any easier to even slow down something that big travelling that fast.

As per could Hyperion push the panel, specially had it not been travelling at something that ridiculously fast, i dont know but most likely we will never know.

Remember, Tom Brevroot, who is Hickman's senior editor, who has to actually check and accept anything Hickman writers before it can be published heavily criticized Superman feat, because as per Brevroot, the feat was just done to show Superman strength, not to actually serve the story. Had Superman somehow benchpressed the planet to save lives that feat , at least to Brevroot would be acceptable.

Now whether Hickman or us readers, like it or not, Brevroot wont allow Hickman to simply have Hyperion bench press a planet, its only scenarios like this that is going to be allowed.

Given that , the feat itself is very damn impressive. If you really want to do a calculation you need to somehow assume at what speed didi Hyperion hold the planet, even if the planet after Hyperion touched it was moving something ridiculious like 100 miles per hour, that a acceleration by something ridiculous like 499,900 miles per hours, which will take something ridiculious like 2.98 * e^30 Newtons to actually stop it.

Thats equivalent to lifting a weight of 3.31 * 10 ^29 Kilos (assuming the rogue planet is anywhere close to say the weight of the Earth), that equivalent of lifting something ridiculious like 5,500 times the weight of a planet.

But thats just rogue calculation, in short what i am trying to say is, you are not fully considering the difference the massive speed of the said rogue planet makes.

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Copy pasting arguments, eh?

Yes.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
If that's not the pot calling the kettle black?

Nope, you have shown time and time again that yo only argue to lowball any feat from a DC character.

What difference does that make?

That means, if it was falling towards Earth shoving it sideways wouldn't work as its not going to steer clear from Earth.

Its still falling TOWARDS earth. Only stopping it and moving it away from Earth would stop it colliding to Earth.

It's flat out shown in the image.

It is not. Hyperion holds on the planet for two panels where it is phased and then it is moved to Earth's location by its remaining momentum.

Why the need to move it to Earth when it's already headed straight for it as planned?

Because it would've destroyed the planet. If Hyperion could just catch the planet and move it away, why even bother with all that prep?

Did you read the book? Overlap with Earth occurs before Hyperion catches it. Hyperion catches it in order to stop it from overshooting. He stops it.

Wut?

Are you out of your mind?

It moves there on its own since that is the direction it is flying at 500,000 miles per hour. Hyperion stops it from overshooting so Thor can anchor it.

Haha, this goon. It is clearly shown above Earth and on a distance before Hyperion slows it down.

You just repeated what I said.

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So Supermen and GLC moved the entire multiverse, eh?

Your "so many times education"😆 is faulty. Moving individual planets is what they are doing.

Haha, they were not moving individual planets. Never shown or implied.

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Originally posted by abhilegend
Nope, you have shown time and time again that yo only argue to lowball any feat from a DC character.

Why I'm not surprised that phrase flew over your head. It means that you are being hypocritical. You lowball all feats by Marvel characters and you have a massive reputation throughout the Internet for doing so. You accusing someone of low balling comical.

That means, if it was falling towards Earth shoving it sideways wouldn't work as its not going to steer clear from Earth.

Its still falling TOWARDS earth. Only stopping it and moving it away from Earth would stop it colliding to Earth.

No, shoving it to the side far enough moves it away from Eath. They never stop it. That's not low balling. That's truth.

It is not. Hyperion holds on the planet for two panels where it is phased and then it is moved to Earth's location by its remaining momentum.

No, the Earth is in its final position in those two panels because Hyperion stops it in position. Clear as day.

Because it would've destroyed the planet. If Hyperion could just catch the planet and move it away, why even bother with all that prep?

The prep is building the phasing technology and attaching the planet to Earth for purposes of a power source. What are so confused about?

Wut?

Are you out of your mind?

Do you not see the scan where it says "overlap" and Hyperion afterwards catching the planet? Your shoot yourself in the foot with your own scans. Thanks again.

Haha, this goon. It is clearly shown above Earth and on a distance before Hyperion slows it down.

Name calling?

Uhm, it shows it overlapping with Earth before Hyperion slows it down, hence Stark announcing "overlap" before signaling for Hyperion to do his part.

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So Supermen and GLC moved the entire multiverse, eh?

Repaired. That is what we are talking about. Planet by planet. Try to keep up.

Haha, they were not moving individual planets. Never shown or implied.

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Denial. I understand the need.

Originally posted by abhilegend
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Copy pasting arguments, eh?

Better than making things up. 😆

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Better than making things up. 😆