Originally posted by psycho gundam
Never said it was that, but it is far and away greater than simply two Earth sized planets slowly coming together, scientific notation levels greater force than what Hyperion withstood catching that planet
You'd think Hyperion couldn't be beaten by anything less than an incursion event.
Even his creator didn't think of him that much powerful afterwards.
Originally posted by abhilegendI personally don't give a rip either way, tbh.
Even that is ambiguous. The universes were destroyed by cascading energy like dominoes falling and the very first issue of Avengers tells us that Hyperion was rescued from a dying universe.http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/28928676/the-spark-that-started-the-fire.jpg.html
So even that is under debate if he survived on his own or was rescued.
I'm just saying that it's far easier(and more logical) to debate the durability portion of the feat, then it is to debate the 'meta-strength' portion of the feat. The latter is just FAR too ambiguous to warrant an in-depth discussion, whereas the former at least has a solid basis behind it on both sides. Imo.
He temp stopped both Universes from Colliding. No getting around this. When the Earth's are destroyed, the Universe stops moving forward. There's no getting around this. Cap hit the earth with the Gauntlet PUSHING TH3 EARTH AND THE UNIVERSE BACK. The Gauntlet was used for nothing but PUSHING THE EARTH BACKWARDS. There's no getting around this. There's no getting around this. Hype stopped two Universes from Colliding until both Earth's crumbled. There is no getting around this.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
Kinda smells like "I don't like it so it didn't happen."
Should we treat Supermen and GLC as multiversal in each thread?
Originally posted by Galan007
I personally don't give a rip either way, tbh.I'm just saying that it's far easier(and more logical) to debate the durability portion of the feat, then it is to debate the 'meta-strength' portion of the feat. The latter is just FAR too ambiguous to warrant an in-depth discussion, whereas the former at least has a solid basis behind it on both sides. Imo.
Yeah, basically just that.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Even that is ambiguous. The universes were destroyed by cascading energy like dominoes falling and the very first issue of Avengers tells us that Hyperion was rescued from a dying universe.http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/28928676/the-spark-that-started-the-fire.jpg.html
So even that is under debate if he survived on his own or was rescued.
Nowhere is a single excursion compared to dominoes or any other chain reaction. The only such comparison is when explaining why excursions continue to happen.
An energy cascade is defined as the transfer of energy from large scales of motion to small scales.
The scan above describes the legend of what happens to Hyperion's universe. A few issues later, we see the narrator's flashback that shows the universe is already dead:
Originally posted by psycho gundam
^ When Molecule man of another universe was killed causing the multiverse to fall in on itself making Earths (their metaphysical representatives) to collide annihilating their respective universes. The incursion is 8 hours long and the Earths being hopelessly drawn to one another doesn't have the catastrophic gravitational effects that would normally happen when two celestial bodies are that close, so it's not a normal situation to say the least.Black swan said that Hank Mcoys of different universes destroyed Earths to end the incursion since there was nothing to slam together so knowing that's "all" it would take, Hyperion being someone who can catch a planet bigger than Earth going 550,000mph, he could just shove Earth away...unless the force drawing them together was far greater, a force that required an infinity gauntlet to overcome
Yep.
Originally posted by TheHulkster
Nowhere is a single excursion compared to dominoes or any other chain reaction. The only such comparison is when explaining why excursions continue to happen.An energy cascade is defined as the transfer of energy from large scales of motion to small scales.
The scan above describes the legend of what happens to Hyperion's universe. A few issues later, we see the narrator's flashback that shows the universe is already dead:
It literally means that the universe was destroyed gradually and he only survived the cascading energy wave which destroyed everything one by one.
It's not as if a giant energy wave destroyed everything in one instant.
That's simply asinine. And that's not a legend, that's narrative from author seeding down the events which were to come in future issues.
Originally posted by abhilegend
cascade /kasˈkeɪd/
noun
2. a process whereby something, typically information or knowledge, is successively passed on.It literally means that the universe was destroyed gradually and he only survived the cascading energy wave which destroyed everything one by one.
It's not as if a giant energy wave destroyed everything in one instant.
That's simply asinine. And that's not a legend, that's narrative from author seeding down the events which were to come in future issues.
We are not talking about information or knowledge and the idea that the universe is destroyed "gradually" is not supported by the books and not stated in your definition above.
But what we are talking about is an "energy cascade" which is "the transfer of energy from large scales of motion to the small scale".
