ROTS Mace and Yoda vs. Zone Anakin & Sidious

Started by Petrus15 pages

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Now the fact that Anakin's grip on reality is so tenuous as to make him unable to draw on that power in conventional situation is PIS at its finest...

But there you are.

Yeah, but that's pretty much why Anakin and Zonakin are not the same.

Originally posted by Petrus
You seem to lack the knowledge to properly argue about a thread yourself created.

Anakin stalemated Kenobi, not [B]Zonakin. You clearly know nothing about the Son, the Father and the Daughter. Leeland Chee confirmed that the Father is the most powerful character to ever be created, being the embodiment of the Force itself. His Son is the embodiment of the dark side, his Daughter the embodiment of the light side. Together, they are considered the most powerful Force-users, as well as the Mother (Abeloth), who is stated to be a dozen times more powerful than Luke Skywalker in his prime. Zonakin casually owned the Son and the Daughter, and the Father originally intended Anakin to be his replacement when he died, strongly suggesting Zonakin at least = the Father.

Become more knowledgeable in the Star Wars EU, or GTFO.

It's fine to not know stuff if you want to learn, but you, without knowing shit, are talking like you know shit. Do yourself a favor and stop making a fool out of yourself.

Now, I agree with Mizukage Yoda. If this is ROTS Zonakin, team 2 wins but doesn't own. If it's Mortis episodes TCW Zonakin, adding Sids just makes this a curbstomp. [/B]

How many times has Anakin drawn from the power of Mortis? It has happened only one time.. Something happening one time.. doesn't mean he can just do that whenever he wants. Doesn't work that way. A power or ability needs to be displayed more than one time as a one off in order for it to be considered something he can do most times. I this case.. he can't just drawn upon said power unless it's specified in the thread. I believe you need to read the forum rules before you further make an ass out of yourself.

Ihe has heasn't drawn upon that power again.. why are people assuming he just can whenever he wants to?

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Ihe has heasn't drawn upon that power again.. why are people assuming he just can whenever he wants to?

What the hell?

Dude, that's why there's a difference between Zonakin and Anakin... You're thinking they're the same, and you made this thread...

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Ihe has heasn't drawn upon that power again.. why are people assuming he just can whenever he wants to?

Who the heck's saying he uses that level of power whenever he wants?

Your the one who made this thread specifically include Zone Anakin.

His more standard power set is just a notch below Count Dooku. So still enough to give Mace Windu a pretty decent fight, but ultimately lose.

KuRuPT Thanosi your a complete idiot. The Son and The Daughter are LIGHTYEARS stronger then Yoda/Sidious/Windu. MORTIS Zone Anakin would slaughter everyone on this team. ROTS Zone Anakin would pwn Windu and take down Yoda/Sidious in tough fights or atleast stalemate.

This seems about right.

Anakin at full potential ( as per the site ) > prime father ( holocron keeper ) > abeloth > ( son/daughter ) > luke > palpatine > yoda > everyone else

Originally posted by Petrus
What the hell?

Dude, that's why there's a difference between Zonakin and Anakin... You're thinking they're the same, and you made this thread...

Maybe you're new to this forum Zoneanakin doesn't refer to the anakin in that episode its the common name used for the anakin that fought and killed dooku. That is where ZoneAnakin came from well before that episode even came out. I thought you knew that already but I guess not. Mortisanakin would be somebody totally different and would have to be specified in that thread title. Two different anakin's from one another. One could theorize that they could be the same but that isn't the common application of zoneanakin. Again though, he would have to display said ability more than once to even consider anakin being able to do it. Since he hasn't, it's not applicable to anakin in a forum fight.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Who the heck's saying he uses that level of power whenever he wants?

Your the one who made this thread specifically include Zone Anakin.

His more standard power set is just a notch below Count Dooku. So still enough to give Mace Windu a pretty decent fight, but ultimately lose.

You've been on this site long enough to know what Zoneanakin means.. stop being obtuse.. YOu know damn well that this refers to the anakin that beat Dooku.. NOT Mortianakin.. that is a totally different beast all together and would need to be specified in the OP. You know damn well what zoneanakin means.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER

His Force abilities are EXACTLY what his being in the Zone effects. [/B]

The original connotation for Zonakin in was that he was in a relaxed state of mind which would give him a tactical edge during lightsaber combat which is why he easily beheaded Dooku and why he partly lost to Obi-Wan. There's no evidence that his mind being conflicted significantly weakened his force powers.

However I do have to concede as someone who hasn't watched TCW that Zonakin may have to be updated with this new feat but I think it has less to do with him being in the zone. He should be called something else for this feat.

^^^ exactly.. that has NEVER been used to describe that feat. That feat was a one off and isn't admissable for regular anakin... Zonanakin has always been used as the one who beat dooku

Originally posted by pencilcrayon
Anakin at full potential ( as per the site ) > prime father ( holocron keeper )

I'm curious, but where is it stated a FP Anakin is stronger than the Father? Do you have a link?

He had the potential to be the most powerful Force-user ever.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
^^^ exactly.. that has NEVER been used to describe that feat. That feat was a one off and isn't admissable for regular anakin... Zonanakin has always been used as the one who beat dooku

Zone Anakin killed Dooku with incredible ease. Even if you think Mace is better than Dooku, Anakin should kill him with moderate difficulty at best.

Team 1.

Mace hands Darth Shitious his ass again. And Yoda takes Anakin in a hard fight.

This is a fact.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
You've been on this site long enough to know what Zoneanakin means.. stop being obtuse.. YOu know damn well that this refers to the anakin that beat Dooku.. NOT Mortianakin.. that is a totally different beast all together and would need to be specified in the OP. You know damn well what zoneanakin means.

The problem here is you lacking the relevant Star Wars EU knowledge, but then coming in here and ranting and raving at other people. You have no clue as to the Star Wars hierarchy asking for feats from the Son and Daughter. In fact I'm betting you had no clue who The Ones even were.

Zone Anakin means Anakin when he's "In the Zone."

I.e. tapping into an incredible amount of his raw power, more than he usually does/is able to.

Previously Zone Anakin only referred to Anakin when he stomped on Dooku, because that was the only time we ever saw him in the Zone. Now we have two examples of him being in the Zone.

Your wrong calling that Anakin "Mortis" Anakin, because even on Mortis his average showings were no where near equal to the Son and Daughter.

However you are right that Mortis Zone Anakin is a different beast altogether, because he really would completely wreck Yoda and Mace together in that state.

Also I suggest you read my first post before ranting and raving about which Zone Anakin this is:

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
The only way the Jedi win is if Mace's Vapaad can make his raw power grow to Anakin's level.

Although that won't help if he goes into Mortis Uber Zone mode and just TK's Yoda and Mace together.

Okay SOMEONE NEEDS TO STOP WANKING MACE.

EVEN IF MACE>DOOKU IT WOULD BE BY A SMALL AMOUNT!.

And if Mace>Dooku, Mace would still GET WTFPWNED by Zone Anakin seeing as how Anakin tooled Dooku in 20 or so seconds, wereas Dooku gave Yoda a FAR better fight

Even if MACE>DOOKU, Mace would still be pwned badly by Zone Anakin who then jumps over and helps Sidious PWN Yoda.

Originally posted by Nephthys
He had the potential to be the most powerful Force-user ever.

Ah, interesting. Glad to see that confirmed.

Originally posted by ROTJ Vader
seeing as how Anakin tooled Dooku in 20 or so seconds, wereas Dooku gave Yoda a FAR better fight

Zone Anakin actually defeated Dooku in an instant. The instant he "decided to win."

He simply got more and more powerful during that fight until he was arguably the most powerful Jedi/Sith alive.

Vaapad will not help Mace at all Vs Zone Anain. Anakin will wtfpwn him no matter what.