Superman DCNU VS Silver Surfer

Started by Odekahn40 pages

Originally posted by vince_slice
Well I asked you specifically if he can bust a planet with a punch, and you said yes. You can see it in the quote. So now you're saying he needs some sort of weak spot on the planet that causes a chain reaction to bust the planet? IOW it sounds like you're saying he can't bust a planet with a punch.

Comic characters have busted planets with one punch/attack before, you know that right? (E.g, Drax,Terrax, Gladiator...well he took 3 punches.)

If you're saying that Superman can bust the planet [b]eventually, after enough punches, that's obvious. Then the question becomes how many would he need? Based on actual evidence the scientist that measured his bench pressing feat said he displayed strength exceeding it when he fought H'el, and described it as "mountain" busting. This might seem a stretch to you, but Galan already showed you why pressing =/= strike power necessarily. Shockwaves were felt sure, but no continents were cracked, nore eastern boarders sunk like at the end of WWH.

So how strong are his punches then? Even though they're plainly described as able to topple mountains, are you going to claim much greater? What proof will you have of this? The way you describe it, you make it seem like Superman would bust the planet in a few punches. [/B]

If it's in the same context as the other people who destroyed planets with punches then absolutely. The proof is that if he's strong enough to benchpress a planet he's obviously strong enough to bust it depending in the density of the planet. It seems like you all are trying to demote him a category, claiming he can't do something that should be obvious.

Originally posted by Odekahn
If it's in the same context as the other people who destroyed planets with punches then absolutely. The proof is that if he's strong enough to benchpress a planet he's obviously strong enough to bust it depending in the density of the planet. It seems like you all are trying to demote him a category, claiming he can't do something that should be obvious.
He's already basically unloaded into the planet

It did not kabloosh

Originally posted by Odekahn
This is what I want to know,

1. So he is at least in the upper category of planetary strength when it comes to bench pressing, but in a category only a fraction of that when it comes to punching. This is what you are saying, correct?

Is that what you think? If not, please correct me.

1. Still not English. And you probably don't want to follow this line of thinking to its bitter end. Because if your basic premise is that planet benching = planet busting...

... then you have to accept what kind of planet benching category Thor and Hulk are when they bust planets via collateral shockwaves created from their blows. Basically Thor and Hulk are in such a high category that they collaterally bench-press planets while benching other things.

Because benching = punching, you see.

Originally posted by Odekahn
If it's in the same context as the other people who destroyed planets with punches then absolutely. The proof is that if he's strong enough to benchpress a planet he's obviously strong enough to bust it depending in the density of the planet. It seems like you all are trying to demote him a category, claiming he can't do something that should be obvious.

Your "proof" was proven to be faulty by a lot of posters, and by the comic itself...

So just to clarify, do you think Superman can destroy an Earth sized planet with one punch?

Originally posted by Ambient
Holy! This tread exploded.

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Right? (Only when caught in a lie)

I was laughing in the very post. Your contempt towards me wouldn't make any difference here.

Make sense but its still does not take away the fact that SS still track a porter from porting at mid port.
Just like magneto did and batman did it once too.

I never doubt my idol unfortunately can't say the same for you.
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[B]TRAITOR! your house no longer wants you, such is the destiny of one whose mind/ body and soul is so infatuated with Clark 😂 ..
Again 😂.

Huh! Ok! Cause thats how insta-fast the port is.

Your not making sense man.

So superman instantly flew from Pluto to Earth and searched the whole earth?

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No teleportation is instantaneous.

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Transmutation probably wouldn't work on Superman because of his durability, in an issue of Power Girl she stated specifically that her molecules were too tough to be transmuted

That said, Surfer should take a majority due to versatility unless he tries to brawl it out with Supes.

Originally posted by abhilegend
I was laughing in the very post. Your contempt towards me wouldn't make any difference here.

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Your right on that - got nothin against you do, if that make sense. Lol's

Just like magneto did and batman did it once too.

Good for em characters but really, they're not the once being discussed here so that's pretty much irrelevant.

So superman instantly flew from Pluto to Earth and searched the whole earth?

I'm kinda at a loss here.. Lol

I thought were discussing the Surfers feat here.
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Not Supe's feat; do you see Pursuer porting tech being use in there? Do u see Surfer and Pursuer battle taking place in the span of Earth to Pluto? Sorry Ahbi, again just not seeing the relevancy of your scan.

The point I'm trying to pass is simple, it's very evident in the scan presented; After Pursuer blasted surfer in the back he activated his port (a) and instantly appear behind (b) Surfer. How do we know it was instant? Look at the art; at mid port energy, the portal energy and the arrival energy was all present at the exact time, all in a single panel. Another thing thats going for is also the distance, it being a couple of feet as oppose to a lot more; Earth to Pluto for example.. I call that instant or instantaneous teleportation.

No teleportation is instantaneous.

This one is. 👆

Where did it say Superman searched the entire planet? That was never mentioned.

Originally posted by carver9
Where did it say Superman searched the entire planet? That was never mentioned.

He didn't. Don't really understand what Ahbi is getting at. 😕

Originally posted by Ambient
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Your right on that - got nothin against you do, if that make sense. Lol's

Riiight.

Good for em characters but really, they're not the once being discussed here so that's pretty much irrelevant.
Of course they are relevant, it tells that you don't have to be particularly fast to track a teleportation.

I'm kinda at a loss here.. Lol

I thought were discussing the Surfers feat here.
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This is a surfer vs superman thread if you didn't notice.

Not Supe's feat; do you see Pursuer porting tech being use in there? Do u see Surfer and Pursuer battle taking place in the span of Earth to Pluto? Sorry Ahbi, again just not seeing the relevancy of your scan.
I see surfer tracking a random teleportation and you blowing it off proportions.

The point I'm trying to pass is simple, it's very evident in the scan presented; After Pursuer blasted surfer in the back he activated his port (a) and instantly appear behind (b) Surfer. How do we know it was instant? Look at the art; at mid port energy, the portal energy and the arrival energy was all present at the exact time, all in a single panel.
Are you seriously trying to use art as a proof that the teleportation was instantaneous? I mean seriously? Hahahaha.
Another thing thats going for is also the distance, it being a couple of feet as oppose to a lot more; Earth to Pluto for example.. I call that instant or instantaneous teleportation.
Being just a feet doesn't makes it instantaneous.

This one is. 👆
No such things. Its just laughable to the say in the least.

Originally posted by Ambient
He didn't. Don't really understand what Ahbi is getting at. 😕

Lets see, the teleportation was cloaked from superman's senses and it appeared randomly on a place where superman has never gone and he didn't know that the outlaws were going to that island either. How did he appeared just after the outlaws appeared there? Sheer blind luck?

I don't see why he couldn't have used his super hearing &vision to pinpoint them and fly there super fast.

So in other words, he scanned the entire planet?

Not physically.

But the earth is curved; supervision won't bend around corners. Granted on super hearing though. And it would have to be pretty dsmn fast; he won't have been able to hear them until after they ported.

Plus, speed of sound and all. At the very least, he'd have had to fly todifferent vvantage points, scan then move on, just because of the curvature of the earth.

Or I'm reading too much into it.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But the earth is curved; supervision won't bend around corners. Granted on super hearing though. And it would have to be pretty dsmn fast; he won't have been able to hear them until after they ported.

Plus, speed of sound and all. At the very least, he'd have had to fly todifferent vvantage points, scan then move on, just because of the curvature of the earth.

Or I'm reading too much into it.


Surfer can track a speck of dust a galaxy away. Even though it would take how many years for the light reflected off the dust to reach Surfer's retina? This is comic books so we sort of have to ignore certain scientific inconsistencies.

Originally posted by vince_slice
I don't see why he couldn't have used his super hearing &vision to pinpoint them and fly there super fast.

Because the teleportation was cloaked from his senses. Superman appeared instantly after they teleported in and that's why Jason was pointing his gun towards sky.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Because the teleportation was cloaked from his senses. Superman appeared instantly after they teleported in and that's why Jason was pointing his gun towards sky.

I know the teleportation was cloaked, but was their auditory speech cloaked too. They had a full conversation after they teleported. Could Superman not hear them with his super hearing to pinpoint them?

Originally posted by vince_slice
Surfer can track a speck of dust a galaxy away. Even though it would take how many years for the light reflected off the dust to reach Surfer's retina? This is comic books so we sort of have to ignore certain scientific inconsistencies.

Surfer has made a lot of claims over the year, not all of them are true.