Originally posted by Odekahn
Context...Within a comic, if there is a spot on the world, where if hit, it would be destroyed, and it took the entire weight of the earth to activate it, Superman could do it. That's what it meant, it's a category label, PLANET BUSTER, it doesn't mean that if he punched the ground the world would explode. Come on you guys, lol.
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Originally posted by Odekahn1. Not English.
1. What about what I said is I correct? I'm trying to understand if that's what you are saying? It was me asking a question, not trying to make a statement.2. Does Superman easily bench pressing a planet contradict the feat of his punching power only being able to topple mountains? Does that make logical sense to you how that could really exist?
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2. No. Yes, why not?
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Originally posted by Branlor Swift
You don't just start pushing it that's for sure.Didn't Galan literally just prove you wrong about strength and punching power going hand in hand?
No it isn't. You're basically saying pushing something is interchangeable with punching because any lengths to go to for Superman destroying a planet isn't far enough.
Superman can push a planet. Angry Superman punching H'el into a planet is capable of sending tremors around the world, yet fail to cause any significant damage. As of right now, Superman cannot destroy a planet. Canon.
No I'm not. I never said that they were interchangeable. I said that punching is a type of pushing and that you use the same muscles to do both. And Galan posted a link to an article that discusses lifting heavy weights versus striking power. Basically just because you were strong doesn't mean you are going to be able to punch to your full capabilities. You also have to have good technique.
Originally posted by ODG
1. Not English.2. No. Yes, why not?
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This is what I want to know,
1. So he is at least in the upper category of planetary strength when it comes to bench pressing, but in a category only a fraction of that when it comes to punching. This is what you are saying, correct?
Is that what you think? If not, please correct me.
Originally posted by Odekahn
No I'm not. I never said that they were interchangeable. I said that punching is a type of pushing and that you use the same muscles to do both. And Galan posted a link to an article that discusses lifting heavy weights versus striking power. Basically just because you were strong doesn't mean you are going to be able to punch to your full capabilities. You also have to have good technique.
Originally posted by Odekahn
It is a driving force, label it whatever you want but the fact is that the stronger you are the harder you are going to be able to punch.Don't get me wrong I'm not saying that strength is everything. But it is a lot when talking about punching power.
TBH, I think that's exactly what you want to say, but you're trying to tiptoe around it on account of being proven wrong and are now just trying to say it has sooooo much to do with it... but not all! Look at that recovery.
Basically, pushing isn't punching. Lifting isn't punching. Also, Superman has terrible technique.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
The Death Star can blatantly destroy a planet because it's really ****ing powerful. Superman can't.And planet busting by its very nature means Superman would have to just punch the planet and destroy it. Not hit a weak spot
I just meant in relation to the deathstar blowing up at the end of the first movie. Not its ability to destroy a planet. But Planet Busting is just a description. No character is just going to punch the ground and the world explode. Their fist isn't big enough.
And I don't mean a weak spot, Im saying if it took the entire weight of the world in order to hit that spot to cause it to blowup, Superman could do it.
Originally posted by Odekahn
Context...Within a comic, if there is a spot on the world, where if hit, it would be destroyed, and it took the entire weight of the earth to activate it, Superman could do it. That's what it meant, it's a category label, PLANET BUSTER, it doesn't mean that if he punched the ground the world would explode. Come on you guys, lol.
Well I asked you specifically if he can bust a planet with a punch, and you said yes. You can see it in the quote. So now you're saying he needs some sort of weak spot on the planet that causes a chain reaction to bust the planet? IOW it sounds like you're saying he can't bust a planet with a punch.
Comic characters have busted planets with one punch/attack before, you know that right? (E.g, Drax,Terrax, Gladiator...well he took 3 punches.)
If you're saying that Superman can bust the planet eventually, after enough punches, that's obvious. Then the question becomes how many would he need? Based on actual evidence the scientist that measured his bench pressing feat said he displayed strength exceeding it when he fought H'el, and described it as "mountain" busting. This might seem a stretch to you, but Galan already showed you why pressing =/= strike power necessarily. Shockwaves were felt sure, but no continents were cracked, nore eastern boarders sunk like at the end of WWH.
So how strong are his punches then? Even though they're plainly described as able to topple mountains, are you going to claim much greater? What proof will you have of this? The way you describe it, you make it seem like Superman would bust the planet in a few punches.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Except, the post you quoted was talking about the punching feat and you responded with [b]How does it not support "their stance"? [/B]
We have been talking about both for a while now, actually we've been talking about a lot of things tonight. So just so there is no confusion, I was talking about the bench pressing feat.
Originally posted by Odekahn
We have been talking about both for a while now, actually we've been talking about a lot of things tonight. So just so there is no confusion, I was talking about the bench pressing feat.
Again, the post you quoted was talking about the punching feat and you responded with How does it not support "their stance"?