Originally posted by abhilegendWW does not have to be stronger than superman to beat him. Shes faster in combat speed and has thors hammer, he will get hit with it. WW wins 8/10.
Dude, according to him wonder woman is already several times stronger than superman and whole world saying otherwise is wrong.
Originally posted by JBL
WW does not have to be stronger than superman to beat him. Shes faster in combat speed and has thors hammer, he will get hit with it. WW wins 8/10.
OWAW Superman was tutored on the usage of his abilities by Mongul though. his combat speed performance was nothing to sneer at. The hammer may stack with Diana's power set though, which could make her into a Super Thor type of character, however this is not always the case as seen when Bill got the hammer. I mean if he was able to stand toe to toe with Thor without the hammer, he should have become far more powerful with it. He didn't. shrug.
Originally posted by JBL
WW does not have to be stronger than superman to beat him. Shes faster in combat speed and has thors hammer, he will get hit with it. WW wins 8/10.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Who said she's faster than him?
She does and Batman does, and when they pressed Superman was willing to give on the issue.
He has left her in the dust in speed and just because a butthurt writer who was getting owned on a message board tried to insert his views in comics doesn't means anything.
Note, the writer's comments actually stacks up with observed performance- she does extremely well against high-end speedsters like Zoom, Flash, etc., and in Sacrifice, when they got into HtH she landed more hits than vice-versa. Plus one of her 'things' is deflecting large volleys of projectiles, even lasers/heat vision, with rapid arm movements.
Her having faster arm/reflex speeds fit with what's shown, not just by one writer, but by many.
Originally posted by Q99Batman has also said he would rely on superman's reflexes when they were sharing powers instead of wonder woman's in Trinity. Stop acting like McDuffie who admitted that he was nerfing superman on purpose means its a universal truth.
She does and Batman does, and when they pressed Superman was willing to give on the issue.
Note, the writer's comments actually stacks up with observed performance- she does extremely well against high-end speedsters like Zoom, Flash, etc., and in Sacrifice, when they got into HtH she landed more hits than vice-versa.She "does" well against speedsters? Zoom was handling her like a child in both of his fights untill Rucka intervened with Zoom distracting himself in the first fight. Superman actually races speedsters on foot and does respectfully well against them to the point that barry allen was frustrated that superman stalemates him while holding back.
In Rebirth Superman matched Barry in speed when he left everybody including wonder woman in dust.
Professor Zoom tells that superman's reflexes nearly match his own
He catches Wally who was running out of control by racing him
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He has blitzed Bizarro who wonder woman had difficulty even seeing when he hit her etc.
In sacrifice he actually blitzed her and took her to the sun. The fact that he was missing hitting her due to the size difference between doomsday and her doesn't means shit.
Plus one of her 'things' is deflecting large volleys of projectiles, even lasers/heat vision, with rapid arm movements.Batman has deflected lasers and HV too with ain-dodging, superman has raced lasers outright and came out on top.
Her having faster arm/reflex speeds fit with what's shown, not just by one writer, but by many.Name one writer outside of mcduffie. Superman would stomp her in speed feats, he is outright stated to be in Flash's league in speed. Wonder Woman wishes she could be near superman in speed.
Batman has also said he would rely on superman's reflexes when they were sharing powers instead of wonder woman's in Trinity. Stop acting like McDuffie who admitted that he was nerfing superman on purpose means its a universal truth.
And, y'know, their direct fights against each other.
It's always funny how many people have trouble accepting that they match up like they actually have matched up.