Originally posted by Galan007
Lol.I'm pretty sure the writers ran out of ideas for decent powers after, like, the 5th ring, and just went with any random crap they could come up with after that. Influence? Daimonic? The Liar? Lulz.
If you put it this way, Madarin seems kind of lame ^^.
Originally posted by Daredevil1
Although I don't posses Mandarin main fights with Ironman in his solo books. I do have most of Mandarin appearances in TOS, Avengers, and Captain America. As I will admit in "these" showings he is a threat to Ironman but only because of the combo of his prep/tech, rings, thugs, superhuman strength, karate skill. But not just based on his hth skills alone.For example here is the scene. Mandarin has weakened Ironman severley to make him believe he was much "stronger" then he really was. As Ironman figured out he couldn't really break his Ironman armour and made Mandarin hurt himself badly. Ironman won easily despite Mandarin weakening him with prep/hurting him with his rings.
https://imageshack.com/i/mq7pp7jAnother fight in TOS.
Again Ironman damaged from previously and bare handed as Tony knows he has no real weapons. Tony Goads Mandarin to fight him in HTH because if he uses his rings Tony is a goner. The outcome below as Mandarin notices his super karate can't do much to Ironman.
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Now these are true past showings. As I am unaware of how good currently Mandarin does against Ironman now a days. But it is obvious in this past his hth was simply not enough against a context weakened Ironman........"back" then anyways. He might do better in the more modern Ironman books, which I don't have.
Here Mandarin fights Cap longer then a one strike shield hit, which was a stalemate with Cap in that one. Here Mandarin doesn't really engage Steve in hand to hand and relies in his rings but Cap gets the better of him tactically. In a rings vs shield/environment match.
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👆 Great scans. Thanks for the insight.
If not from my recent revelation that proved that Batman sucks at h2h, I'd be convinced by know.
Maybe the proof defending Mandarin exists, but apparently it's so evident that we should just shut up and accept it or we become apallingly stupid awesr
Wish Srank was around, at least he could be civil and make a point.
Originally posted by Bentley
If not from my recent revelation that proved that Batman sucks at h2h, I'd be convinced by know.Maybe the proof defending Mandarin exists, but apparently it's so evident that we should just shut up and accept it or we become apallingly stupid awesr
Wish Srank was around, at least he could be civil and make a point.
if you read the post you should know i was being a little faceitious, first off, and secondly..... pretty sure you know that's not what i meant. apparently though it IS fair to be considered inept and witless et al, for thinking the opposite because i don't particularly find mandarin's performances against IM to be so far and away superior to many others' feats against many other high level opponents? also pretty sure i made that point very civilly, while even apologizing for the text wall. i'm more than aware there are few if any who support my side of this, and that's fine. i don't find my own reasoning for thinking different illogical and recall i also said mandy DOES win. so, yeah. awesr
Originally posted by leonidas
if you read the post you should know i was being a little faceitious, first off, and secondly..... pretty sure you know that's not what i meant. apparently though it IS fair to be considered inept and witless et al, for thinking the opposite because i don't particularly find mandarin's performances against IM to be so far and away superior to many others' feats against many other high level opponents? also pretty sure i made that point very civilly, while even apologizing for the text wall. i'm more than aware there are few if any who support my side of this, and that's fine. i don't find my own reasoning for thinking different illogical and recall i also said mandy DOES win. so, yeah. awesr
I must overly suck at writing in English 🙁
Originally posted by leonidas
he certainly is. but gk you never really gave an opinion. regardless, i'll respect it, but would you place mandy on the "unearthly" tier of h2h, levels above guys like cap et al? or....do you really just not give a sh!t about the topic one way or the other? lol
Mmmmh... I was under the impression that Mandy was more powerful in h2h, enough to beat Cap at least, but exactly how much above is pretty hard to gauge considering the comics I've read. Going by Temugin's fights, it should be clear that chi manipulation gives him a solid edge against regular martial artists. Is he more skilled? Probably not, I think that like with Wolverine, superior stats actually are explanatory for many of the great feats they have, but both are pretty skillful one way or another. I can be swayed one way or another though, normally I pay special attention to debates where answers are not clear cut.
Then again, in this thread I already explained that I lost all my respect for Batman's fighting skills forever when I saw scans of Harley dancing around him...
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Originally posted by Bentley
Mmmmh... I was under the impression that Mandy was more powerful in h2h, enough to beat Cap at least, but exactly how much above is pretty hard to gauge considering the comics I've read. Going by Temugin's fights, it should be clear that chi manipulation gives him a solid edge against regular martial artists. Is he more skilled? Probably not, I think that like with Wolverine, superior stats actually are explanatory for many of the great feats they have, but both are pretty skillful one way or another. I can be swayed one way or another though, normally I pay special attention to debates where answers are not clear cut.Then again, in this thread I already explained that I lost all my respect for Batman's fighting skills forever when I saw scans of Harley dancing around him...
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what's the equivalent in french to pffft? it's like you don't think harley would mess mandy's sh!t up. sneer
new bats does seem to be bogged down with suckage though. 🙁
i think a fight between mandy and cap would be a lot closer than most seem to. i could see mandy having to resort to rings to beat him tbh, but i also could see mandy taking him out. my whole point was that i don't think he's leagues above cap et. al., in skill. but, whatever. maybe one day we'll see.
Originally posted by leonidas
he certainly is. but gk you never really gave an opinion. regardless, i'll respect it, but would you place mandy on the "unearthly" tier of h2h, levels above guys like cap et al? or....do you really just not give a sh!t about the topic one way or the other? lol
