Darth Vader vs. Darth Malgus

Originally posted by The Merchant
Vader has taken bombs exploding on his chest and nay a scratch.

Never ever try to underestimate Malgus's durability and defensive capabilities.

Originally posted by The Merchant
He's casually defeated highly skilled assassins like they were nothing.

Originally posted by The Merchant
Vader has beaten Jedi like the Dark Woman, council level members. I give it to Vader.

In-fact, Malgus have extremely destructive powers such as Force Malestrom.

Originally posted by ROTJ Vader
Alright. Can someone post a list of Malguses best feats?. Because as of know im going for Vader.

- Out-dueled extremely capable adversaries (e.g. Kao and Zallow)
- Tanked a direct missile hit
- Tanked a Starship Engine and tolerated its resultant explosion
- Endured cliff shattering Force power
- Blew apart portion of rubble that fell over him during the collapse of two buildings around his position and got out from the mountain of rubble. Keep in mind that Malgus was in bad shape during this encounter.
- Was capable of defeating Satele (who is among the very best of the Jedi Order)
- Acquired extremely destructive Force abilities such as Force Maelstrom (Precursor to Force Storm Wormhole application)
- Collapsed columns of the Jedi Temple on Coruscant
- Achieved oneness with the dark side
- Killed lot of people with a Force wave

Malgus too damage from that missile though. Freaking scarred his face. And yes I know he did all that, however Vader has also been through similar stuff. Heck, a freaking Cathedral fell on him and then was stated as though he willed himself back to life. Without his mask.

So did Vader, heck he did it to a Master in Dark Lord when he had the disadvantage of being new in his suit.

Besides Shan, no one really comes to mind. Good for him, Vader has taken Galen's lightning amp'd by Kamino's storms and power generators and targetted in a hole on his suit and all it did was make him kneel on one knee, with the DS ending showing that he was faking that.

Originally posted by The Merchant
And yes I know he did all that, however Vader has also been through similar stuff.

Originally posted by The Merchant
Heck, a freaking Cathedral fell on him and then was stated as though he willed himself back to life. Without his mask.

Originally posted by The Merchant
So did Vader, heck he did it to a Master in Dark Lord when he had the disadvantage of being new in his suit.

Originally posted by The Merchant
Besides Shan, no one really comes to mind. Good for him, Vader has taken Galen's lightning amp'd by Kamino's storms and power generators and targetted in a hole on his suit and all it did was make him kneel on one knee, with the DS ending showing that he was faking that.

Game's depiction of that FL amp is contradicted by novelization and comic. Your point is moot.

It is only a matter of time before Vader goes down to an extremely potent barrage of FL. In-fact, Vader have no answer for Force Maelstrom talent of Malgus.

The bomb Vader tanked was meant to take out a whole room IIRC. Vader has tanked many things, and it was an extremely explosive fuel cell, which has to have more power than missiles since they power ships. And he still was fighting and standing from it.

Yeah, he was tied up though by an Officer.

And Sidious has called Vader the most powerful force user he's seen barring himself.

The Novelization states that Galen has fried an AT-AT in TFUI. TFUII Galen is stronger, and was stated to amp his lightning way more than usual and using a weak spot against him. Force MaelStorm also knew that technique too. And what's stopping Vader from simply TK'ing him or force pushing Malgus across hallways like he did to Celeste Morne?

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
In-fact, Vader have no answer for Force Maelstrom talent of Malgus.

I wouldn't be so sure of that. The Force Maelstrom forms an 'unbreakable' bubble around the user. But Vader has shattered 'unbreakable' things before.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Like;

- Out-dueled extremely capable adversaries (e.g. Kao and Zallow)
- Tanked a direct missile hit
- Tanked a Starship Engine and tolerated its resultant explosion
- Endured cliff shattering Force power
- Blew apart portion of rubble that fell over him during the collapse of two buildings around his position and got out from the mountain of rubble. Keep in mind that Malgus was in bad shape during this encounter.
- Was capable of defeating Satele (who is among the very best of the Jedi Order)
- Acquired extremely destructive Force abilities such as Force Maelstrom (Precursor to Force Storm Wormhole application)
- Collapsed columns of the Jedi Temple on Coruscant
- Achieved oneness with the dark side
- Killed lot of people with a Force wave

DAMN, pretty good. But i'd say Vader still takes a majority, but Malgus holds his own.

Vader is better at virtually everything concerning a fight.

Originally posted by The Merchant
The bomb Vader tanked was meant to take out a whole room IIRC.

Originally posted by The Merchant
Vader has tanked many things, and it was an extremely explosive fuel cell, which has to have more power than missiles since they power ships. And he still was fighting and standing from it.

Originally posted by The Merchant
Yeah, he was tied up though by an Officer.

Originally posted by The Merchant
And Sidious has called Vader the most powerful force user he's seen barring himself.

Originally posted by The Merchant
The Novelization states that Galen has fried an AT-AT in TFUI.

Originally posted by The Merchant
TFUII Galen is stronger, and was stated to amp his lightning way more than usual and using a weak spot against him.

With both hands he sent a wave of lightning into the sparking gash Juno had made in Vader's chest plate.

The Dark Lord staggered backward, transfixed by the unexpected retaliation. Starkiller leapt to his feet and followed him, keeping up the lightning attack and using telekinesis to rip Vader's lightsaber from his temporarily weakened fingers. Sheers of energy spread out across the wet rooftop. Smoke and steam rose up in a tortured spiral. The grating whine of Vader's respirator rook on a desperate edge.

He went down on one knee. Starkiller stood over him. Vader's lightsaber swept into his former apprentice's hand. The blade came to rest at his throat.

Starkiller stared into the black mask, breathing heavily. One twitch of the blade and Vader would be dead at last.

Source: TFU II Novelization

Seems like a normal burst of lightning from Galen.

In contrast, Malgus overwhelmed (dual) lightsaber based defenses of a powerful opponent with his lightning barrage; Malgus even overwhelmed Force based defenses of the same opponent with his lightning barrage, eventually killing the opponent. And this opponent evidently have Vader level Force abilities.

Originally posted by The Merchant
Force MaelStorm also knew that technique too.

Originally posted by The Merchant
And what's stopping Vader from simply TK'ing him or force pushing Malgus across hallways like he did to Celeste Morne?

Celeste was not in good form to fight him (Vader); she had been in stasis for a long time. However, once she drew on the power of Karness, she turned the tide.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I wouldn't be so sure of that. The Force Maelstrom forms an 'unbreakable' bubble around the user. But Vader has shattered 'unbreakable' things before.

Originally posted by ROTJ Vader
DAMN, pretty good. But i'd say Vader still takes a majority, but Malgus holds his own.

Originally posted by Intrepid37
Vader is better at virtually everything concerning a fight.

Subjective assertions; nothing concrete.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
You should be able to understand difference between Force based defenses and inanimate objects.

Indeed. When a metal has been deemed unbreakable by actual scientists through actual tests, I'm more inclined to believe it is, and am therefore highly impressed when Vader proves them wrong. When a Force barrier is deemed as unbreakable based on ****all and nothing I assume its complete bullshit and pay it no mind.

Vader is better at virtually everything concerning a fight.

Originally posted by sfriends23282
This is blatantly false.

Hmm. How do you think this fight goes?

I'm not sure. They're as evenly matched as any two combatants we've pitted against one another.

Power: Vader
Skill: Vader
Speed: Vader or equal
Strength: Vader or equal

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Malgus won't go down easy, and he won't lose every round, but Vader has a clear advantage.

Power is even, skill is even, speed is even, and so is strength.

Pretty much.

In absolutely no way is power and skill even.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Indeed. When a metal has been deemed unbreakable by actual scientists through actual tests, I'm more inclined to believe it is, and am therefore highly impressed when Vader proves them wrong. When a Force barrier is deemed as unbreakable based on ****all and nothing I assume its complete bullshit and pay it no mind.

Remember that protective bubble which Revan summoned to prevent his physical demise at the hands of the Imperial Strike Team? Nothing could breach that bubble.

Here is a glimpse of this bubble:

Also, it is not just the bubble; Force Maelstrom application involves lot of offensive power so Vader will have to deal with such power first before he can do something about the bubble.

Originally posted by sfriends23282
Power is even, skill is even, speed is even, and so is strength.

Darth Vader takes this. There is no Vader clone, Malgus or Malak who can defeat Vader.

Aside from that, Vader has the speed to blitz force sensitives, the force power to collapse cathedrals and trade blows with Galen Stardestroyerpulling Marek, as well as his clone who could use the force to fire a round capable of destroying a Star Destroyer.

In fact, Vader casually pwned Starkiller right after he pulled down the SD. A fact many people seem to forget.

Throw in Vader's hype of being 80% of the most powerful Sith Lord in history, and he has this in the bag. Every Sith in the Sith Empire seems to pale in comparison to the Sith Emperor, whereas Vader is only inferior to the Emperor by a 20% margin.

Darth Vader takes this. There is no Vader clone, Malgus or Malak who can defeat Vader.

Aside from that, Vader has the speed to blitz force sensitives, the force power to collapse cathedrals and trade blows with Galen Stardestroyerpulling Marek, as well as his clone who could use the force to fire a round capable of destroying a Star Destroyer.

Throw in Vader's hype of being 80% of the most powerful Sith Lord in history, and he has this in the bag. Every Sith in the Sith Empire seems to pale in comparison to the Sith Emperor, whereas Vader is only inferior to the Emperor by a 20% margin.