Originally posted by trexalfa
I can't find that much info. What is Chosen Undead destructive capability? Cause Dovahkiin one shots him if he isn't a powefull tank
He's at least at city block level durability, but I doubt any of the D's attacks are fast enough to hit him. Shouts naturally travel at the speed of sound, right (cuz they're shouts), but the CU is supersonic, so it's doubtful they would hit.
However, he's pretty strong on his own right. He can tank a blow from Smough's hammer, which weighs 193 tons (calc'd by Chaos at the OBD along with speed and durability). He can carry his own version of Smough's hammer too, which weighs about 27 tons.
I haven't heard any super-strength/speed feats for the Dovahkiin, but there could be some out there.
Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
So many claims, so little proof.Also, when we say meta, we mean metahuman, not metaversal.
If you check out his OBD profile, and the Dark Souls profile, you'll find some calcs by ChaosTheory123 that put him at city block durability/destructive capacity. His speed sits at Supersonic, and his class 100+ strength (amazingly).
Before beating the game, Clavicus Vile admited that the Dragonborn had nearly as much power as himself (in that moment he had half his power due to Barbas being away). After beating the game (absorbed so many Dragon Souls and more magic and shouts) and the Dragonborn DLC (absorbed every soul within Miraak, learn some neat powers from Hermaeus Mora, can use Bend Will and Dragon Aspect) he must be as powerfull as a weak god (see how powerful Miraak was). Gods by TES standars aren't people to **** arround with
I haven't heard any super-strength/speed feats for the Dovahkiin
Can slow down time and become ethereal. If CO can react to lightning, then Dragonborn can do the same (see dodgin' a thunder spell and the lightning from his own Call Storm shout)
So many claims, so little proof.
http://www.imperial-library.info/content/high-hrothgar-tablets
Originally posted by trexalfa
Before beating the game, Clavicus Vile admited that the Dragonborn had nearly as much power as himself (in that moment he had half his power due to Barbas being away). After beating the game (absorbed so many Dragon Souls and more magic and shouts) and the Dragonborn DLC (absorbed every soul within Miraak, learn some neat powers from Hermaeus Mora, can use Bend Will and Dragon Aspect) he must be as powerfull as a weak god (see how powerful Miraak was). Gods by TES standars aren't people to **** arround withCan slow down time and become ethereal. If CO can react to lightning, then Dragonborn can do the same (see dodgin' a thunder spell and the lightning from his own Call Storm shout)
Neither D nor CU can react to lightning. It's magic lightning for both, not real fast moving lightning. I doubt all the inhabitants of Skyrim and Lordran are relativistic haha. Actually D's speed would have to be capped at Mach 1 considering Whirlwind Sprint is a shout that "carries him" and the only speed it could move at is Mach 1 (cuz it's a shout). CU can react to things moving at Mach 1.62 and D can't react while using Whirlwind sprint making his real reaction speed lower.
On the subject of slow time, it only slows you down to 10% so CU is still faster than D.
I have a feeling vegeta is wanking though. CU is at city block destruction not city level. The designers never said anything regarding that.
Originally posted by NemeBro
I should mention that Dovahkiin managed to fight Tsun to a draw in Sovngarde.Tsun is the Nordic aspect of Zenithar, one of the Nine Divines who created Mundus, and indeed one of the worlds existing within it.
That's certainly impressive, if unquantifiable. Plus, the CU has fought gods too, and unless you've got some better feats, I think the CU would take it. He's faster (Mach 1.62) stronger, (carries around the equivalent of 15 small cars IN BOTH HANDS- his own smaller smoughs hammer) and tougher ( the impact of smoughs 193 ton hammer is equivalent to about 4 tons of TNT). He's fast enough to dodge shouts, slow time doesn't slow him enough, he can cancel out an opponents ability to perform spells, and he's just a smarter more strategic fighter IMO.
Tldr CU outclasses generally across the board.
Now if I'm missing something, please tell me, but as I see it, the Dovahkiin is (puts on sunglasses) Fus Ro Dead. Ba dum tss
No longer eating, I can make a more detailed post.
Dova is able to parry Alduin's blows, Alduin who crumbled underground caverns dozens of meters below the surface, from the surface.
In terms of durability he can of course tank those same blows, fight and take blows from deities like the aforementioned Tsun or Alduin, and was able to withstand the combined might of all four Greybeard's Thu'ums at High Hrothgar.
Speed is iffier, in-game at least you can dodge and react to Thu'ums, but other than that I can't recall.
Dova also have CU's number in destructive capacity and versatility with his Thu'um.
Also, Slow Time will certainly be enough to bridge the speed gap.
It slows time to 10% of what is normal, aka, the CU is 1/10th as fast as he once was. So about 55 meters per second now. Dovahkiin can also snatch arrows out of mid-air, albeit it is difficult to do so.
Originally posted by NemeBro
No longer eating, I can make a more detailed post.Dova is able to parry Alduin's blows, Alduin who crumbled underground caverns dozens of meters below the surface, from the surface.
In terms of durability he can of course tank those same blows, fight and take blows from deities like the aforementioned Tsun or Alduin, and was able to withstand the combined might of all four Greybeard's Thu'ums at High Hrothgar.
Speed is iffier, in-game at least you can dodge and react to Thu'ums, but other than that I can't recall.
Dova also have CU's number in destructive capacity and versatility with his Thu'um.
Also, Slow Time will certainly be enough to bridge the speed gap.
It slows time to 10% of what is normal, aka, the CU is 1/10th as fast as he once was. So about 55 meters per second now. Dovahkiin can also snatch arrows out of mid-air, albeit it is difficult to do so.
Ah, finally, some good feats!
I'm liking the Alduin strength feat, and it should be comparable to the Smough strength feat, plus the CU can parry Gwyn's blows, who is probably stronger than Smough. ANYWAY, the CU has his own version of slow time called Tranquil Walk of Peace that manipulates the gravity around the opponent achieving a similar effect for longer and without affecting the user.
Besides that, I agree that D has better versatility with his shouts, but because of the CU's speed, they're ultimately useless. Same goes for magic. Vow of Silence would disable both their magic turning it into a melee fight, a place where the CU still has a big advantage in speed.
For durability, he can tank Smoughs blow no sweat and the chaos fire storm spell which is city block level.