God is extremely egotistical and prideful. Why does he not defend his name?

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God is extremely egotistical and prideful. Why does he not defend his name?

God is extremely egotistical and prideful. Why does he not defend his name?

God’s inflated ego and prideful nature, --- one of the deadly sins, --- demands that we love, honor, obey him and forgive his evil ways before he grants us access to heaven.

Many atheists and non-religious writers and even the spiritually minded have been playing fast and loose with various dis-respectful titles and adjectives that God seems content to ignore.

“The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.” ¯ Richard Dawkins, The God Delusion

This goes against God’s inflated ego and prideful nature. With God’s inordinate self-esteem and conceit, one would think that he would not sit back in such a dishonorable way and would be concerned about saving face.

If you or I had to suffer all of the vilifications God is tolerating, we would quickly start defending ourselves and our good name to all comers. Yet God does nothing and his pride dwarfs anything you and I might have.

God has retaliated in the past for less offensive reasons. If the charges against God are slanderous lies created by those who just want to denigrate, vilify and defame him, why does he not retaliate?

Has God lost his pride, honor, self-respect and over-inflated ego?
Does he no longer care about his dignity and good name?

Or is it all true and he fears to show his face on earth?

Regards
DL

ya, you tell those strawmen what is up!

Originally posted by Greatest I am
God is extremely egotistical and prideful. Why does he not defend his name?

God’s inflated ego and prideful nature, --- one of the deadly sins, --- demands that we love, honor, obey him and forgive his evil ways before he grants us access to heaven.

Many atheists and non-religious writers and even the spiritually minded have been playing fast and loose with various dis-respectful titles and adjectives that God seems content to ignore.

“The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.” ¯ Richard Dawkins, The God Delusion

This goes against God’s inflated ego and prideful nature. With God’s inordinate self-esteem and conceit, one would think that he would not sit back in such a dishonorable way and would be concerned about saving face.

If you or I had to suffer all of the vilifications God is tolerating, we would quickly start defending ourselves and our good name to all comers. Yet God does nothing and his pride dwarfs anything you and I might have.

God has retaliated in the past for less offensive reasons. If the charges against God are slanderous lies created by those who just want to denigrate, vilify and defame him, why does he not retaliate?

Has God lost his pride, honor, self-respect and over-inflated ego?
Does he no longer care about his dignity and good name?

Or is it all true and he fears to show his face on earth?

Regards
DL

I feel like I joined a book club.

So, in summary, He was comparable to the monarchies that He liberated "His people" From?

Why do you think that is?

God has a name? Why would God have a name?

Exactly.

Regards
DL

"God is extremely egotistical and prideful. Why does he not defend his name?"

Because he doesn't care about the opinions people of who talk bull.

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Moral fact: God doesn't owe you or anyone else eternal life.

Fun fact: God saying how great he is, isn't egotism or pride, it's actually a fact that he's bigger than all of us.
It's also a fact that we owe him our lives and thus really ought to pay up.

Originally posted by BananaKing
"God is extremely egotistical and prideful. Why does he not defend his name?"

Because he doesn't care about the opinions people of who talk bull.

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Moral fact: God doesn't owe you or anyone else eternal life.

Fun fact: God saying how great he is, isn't egotism or pride, it's actually a fact that he's bigger than all of us.
It's also a fact that we owe him our lives and thus really ought to pay up.

I don't owe any mythological being for my life. I own thanks to my parents for my life.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I don't owe any mythological being for my life. I own thanks to my parents for my life.

And you owe thanks to God for your parents. And we can keep going back and back as long as we like.

Ultimately if God exists, he is the one we owe our lives to.

But either way as I said, God doesn't owe you eternal life, and if anything you owe him yours. Morally things do fall in his favour.

Originally posted by BananaKing
And you owe thanks to God for your parents. And we can keep going back and back as long as we like.

We could also thank the Big Bang, but that would be absurd.
Originally posted by BananaKing
Ultimately if God exists, he is the one we owe our lives to.

And if God didn’t exist, then thanks would be a waste of time.
Originally posted by BananaKing
But either way as I said, God doesn't owe you eternal life, and if anything you owe him yours. Morally things do fall in his favour.

What does God have to do with eternal life?

You must be a Christian.

Originally posted by BananaKing
Moral fact: God doesn't owe you or anyone else eternal life.

Fun fact: God saying how great he is, isn't egotism or pride, it's actually a fact that he's bigger than all of us.
It's also a fact that we owe him our lives and thus really ought to pay up.

These 'facts' you've mentioned... I don't believe the scientific community recognizes any of them...

Well God doesn't recognize science.

/trumped

If God disbelieves science, does this mean nature becomes unrecognizable to the scientific method? And if so, does chaos become law?

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
If God disbelieves science, does this mean nature becomes unrecognizable to the scientific method? And if so, does chaos become law?

Science and gods (including God) are different.

A God must have believes in order to be real. The names of gods we no longer remember, have no reality, not even imaginary. But Science does not require the you to believe. Gravity pulls on the believe and non-believer equally.

Ultimately, there's a huge conditional:

If God exists, then it stands to reason the laws of nature, which are observed and described to the best of human ability via scientific method, are a reflection of its own nature, in the same way a written work can reflect the biases and motives of its author.

To furthermore add to that point, if God does indeed exist and it is the case that he is responsible for nature, then it seems reasonable to assume anything and everything that happens in nature is according to its will. This extends to animals eating the young of others, mass extinctions due to volcanic eruptions or meteor strikes, and everything done by people (since people are part of nature; they are not independent of it).

And then God is directly responsible for everything.

/discussion.

God doesn't utilize morality as we define it. He's something of a True Neutral.

That alignment sucks.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
God doesn't utilize morality as we define it. He's something of a True Neutral.

More like a true supernatural.

He never even watched that show.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison

And if God didn’t exist, then thanks would be a waste of time.

What does God have to do with eternal life?

You must be a Christian.

Yes, If God didn't exist that would be a waste of time, but if something pretty darn close exists then it would be wiser to be safe than sorry.

In terms of death, morality and their relation to God, eternal life is related regardless of if you're a Christian or a Hindu. I'm somewhere between Christian and Buddhist.

Originally posted by Phoenix2001
These 'facts' you've mentioned... I don't believe the scientific community recognizes any of them...

If you ask practically any scientist be them atheist or theist they will say there is no evidence that reality owes us eternal life.

So you are wrong there I'm afraid.