Re: God is extremely egotistical and prideful. Why does he not defend his name?
Originally posted by Greatest I am
God is extremely egotistical and prideful. Why does he not defend his name?God’s inflated ego and prideful nature, --- one of the deadly sins, --- demands that we love, honor, obey him and forgive his evil ways before he grants us access to heaven.
Many atheists and non-religious writers and even the spiritually minded have been playing fast and loose with various dis-respectful titles and adjectives that God seems content to ignore.
“The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.” ¯ Richard Dawkins, The God Delusion
This goes against God’s inflated ego and prideful nature. With God’s inordinate self-esteem and conceit, one would think that he would not sit back in such a dishonorable way and would be concerned about saving face.
If you or I had to suffer all of the vilifications God is tolerating, we would quickly start defending ourselves and our good name to all comers. Yet God does nothing and his pride dwarfs anything you and I might have.
God has retaliated in the past for less offensive reasons. If the charges against God are slanderous lies created by those who just want to denigrate, vilify and defame him, why does he not retaliate?
Has God lost his pride, honor, self-respect and over-inflated ego?
Does he no longer care about his dignity and good name?Or is it all true and he fears to show his face on earth?
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DL
So you believe in God?
Personally I don't believe in God... sometimes (I only believe in god while gambling).
But believing in God... is a nice thing in itself. Not stupid or cowardly. It is having faith in something that you have no evidence of actually knowing... okay it is a little stupid. But holding that faith is quite admirable.
God being egotistical? Well being God... he can kind of afford to. I mean he can back it up. He just won't defend himself because he isn't a 14 year-old girl on facebook.
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
A person defends themselves when they are in danger, since no mortal can put God in danger he has no reason to defend himself.
However, mortals can kill god. If everyone on Earth stopped believing in god (or God), then god would die. Many gods have died this way.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
However, mortals can kill god. If everyone on Earth stopped believing in god (or God), then god would die. Many gods have died this way.
Belief in Yahweh, the God described as being God, non belief could not actually kill him. He dies in out minds but does not die as being. Also he his counter parts the angels. Belief or disbelief in some sort of God does not make him actually exist. He exists whether humans accept his existence or chose not too. A choice he gave us🙂
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Belief in Yahweh, the God described as being God, non belief could not actually kill him. He dies in out minds but does not die as being. Also he his counter parts the angels. Belief or disbelief in some sort of God does not make him actually exist. He exists whether humans accept his existence or chose not too. A choice he gave us🙂
Sorry to disagree with you, but if no one worshiped Yahweh, then Yahweh would be dead. Think about Ra. Is Ra alive or dead?
BTW Yahweh was made up by humans, just like Ra
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Sorry to disagree with you, but if no one worshiped Yahweh, then Yahweh would be dead. Think about Ra. Is Ra alive or dead?BTW Yahweh was made up by humans, just like Ra
For one second believe there was a extra terrestrial that created us. Then say we believed in them at one point and then stopped believing in them later on, but they never actually died as a being.
They are dead in our minds, but still living their own life elsewhere right?
Originally posted by Time ImmemorialNo, they were all killed by the black goo.
For one second believe there was a extra terrestrial that created us. Then say we believed in them at one point and then stopped believing in them later on, but they never actually died as a being.They are dead in our minds, but still living their own life elsewhere right?
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
For one second believe there was a extra terrestrial that created us. Then say we believed in them at one point and then stopped believing in them later on, but they never actually died as a being.They are dead in our minds, but still living their own life elsewhere right?
Gods are not aliens. They are place holders for things we cannot understand, yet. The burning bush; a flaming gas seep: The spark from the ark of the convent; a crude capacitor.
Ok another example.
A cat is born it grows up it does not remember it mother or father. Does that make them automatically dead.
Someone gives up their baby for adoption the baby never knows it parents who created it, does that make the parents dead.
Or someone has amnesia and cannot remember their parents or wife no matter who tell then different, they can't believe because they do not have memory. Even if their parents are standing in the same room?
All in all the OP wants God to stand up for himself my point is God does not need to because he does not rely on us. A person defends them self when they are in danger. Since we cannot put him in danger I see no reason for him to stand up for himself?
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Ok another example.A cat is born it grows up it does not remember it mother or father. Does that make them automatically dead.
Someone gives up their baby for adoption the baby never knows it parents who created it, does that make the parents dead.
Or someone has amnesia and cannot remember their parents or wife no matter who tell then different, they can't believe because they do not have memory. Even if their parents are standing in the same room?
All in all the OP wants God to stand up for himself my point is God does not need to because he does not rely on us. A person defends them self when they are in danger. Since we cannot put him in danger I see no reason for him to stand up for himself?
The problem is that the word dead. A cat's parents may or may or be dead, but to the grownup cat, that has not seen its parents sense it was born, they might as well be dead.
Of course none of this counts for an idea.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Gods are not aliens.
To some schools of thoughts they are.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
[Gods] are place holders for things we cannot understand, yet. The burning bush; a flaming gas seep: The spark from the ark of the convent; a crude capacitor.
That "spark" that you allude to killed a man, according to the story.
That's quite a capacitor, if that's what you think it was.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Gods are not aliens ...
Returning to this, it's specifically worth mentioning that some religions consider "gods" and "aliens" alike to be demons or fallen angels, with a few of the "gods" being Satan himself.
Zeus, Thor, and the Incan gods are the first to come to mind, and are particularly fascinating in lieu of the following Bible verse:
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Luke 10:18
And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven ...
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Re: God is extremely egotistical and prideful. Why does he not defend his name?
I think God had a propensity for perniciousness in Him that stemmed from a difficulty in relating to the human condition before He sent His son.
I kind of have this idea that Lucifer is a persona of God - the only Angel with free-will, able to convert many an Angel despite their inability to disobey God.
Like Lucifer; Jesus also had free-will, Jesus could have abused his powers or joined Lucifer on the flip of a dime any time before or during his torturous murder.
Think about it, God uses avatars like a burning bush, God uses signs and divination, why? To me, what Lucifer and Jesus really are, are quantifiable personas of God. God would not be compatible with a human. To fathom interactions with something on that kind of a frequency would be the equivalent to perceiving all possible dimensions of space, all the areas of space, and the entirety of time simultaneously and non-linearly. So God needs a form on our frequency in which to rule. Jesus and Lucifer are both capable of manipulating systems in nature. Lucifer represents a paroxysmal, horrifically sadistic, terrorist... and a megalomaniac, and Jesus represents the pinnacle of humanity's capacity for good; a patient, understanding, compassionate, nurturing, inspirational leader who can and will solve any problem that emerges. Jesus' wisdom is an illuminating order in the chaos that is nature. Satan had no desire to learn for the sake of wisdom, he learned for the sake of gaining a capacity to manipulate.
Originally posted by RobtardThey most certainly are not in DnD. Where's the phylactery? It can't be a lich in DnD without a phylactery (Unless it's one of those lame good-aligned liches).
They are in D&D; all that matters.It's also almost verbatim to what Wiki says about liches, so probably where they got it.