Mistress Death Vs Nekron

Originally posted by zopzop
Yes but in Death's defense, nothing in the multiverse was powerful enough to stop the Beyonder from accomplishing that.

So if Beyonder wanted Nekron dead, he'd be dead too.

Originally posted by Mr Master
^^ 👆 Right on Zop, he happens to be a special case,
which is why I didn't factor him into Death's history.

Mistress Death, easily. Nekron was living off amps and was easily defeated when the amps ran dry.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Mistress Death, easily. Nekron was living off amps and was easily defeated when the amps ran dry.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Mistress Death, easily. Nekron was living off amps and was easily defeated when the amps ran dry.

What amps now?

Originally posted by Cogito
What amps now?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Am and his crew.

Provided the means for Nekron to cross into the living universe, that's all. If the Anti-Monitor were an amp, Nekron would have casually dismissed him.

Originally posted by abhilegend

He did after the retcon of being a cosmic cube too.

You asked for a canonically death of Death and provided it for
yourself. The fact that it was beyonder doesn't changes the fact that
Death died.

The shit twist of retcons may confuse things further,
but that's not my problem, and it's also the reason I didn't wanna go there.

Originally posted by Mr Master
I wasn't counting the Beyonder since the cosmic hierarchy including the LT,
couldn't stop him.

The shit twist of retcons may confuse things further,
but that's not my problem, and it's also the reason I didn't wanna go there.

Death's 2006 OHOTMU bio specifically references the Beyonder erasing her:
http://i.imgur.com/vHiRL5t.jpg
So as far as Marvel canon is concerned, [half of] a cube-level being evidently has the power to erase Death.

However, her bio also neuters/retcons the feat from multiversal to universal, so there's that.

^ not necessarily, considering that in pre retcon's beyonder's bio, it says that he killed death from "the universe" as well:

http://i.imgur.com/sjfp08B.jpg?1

when we know that on panel, it was stated that he killed death from the multiverse.

It may simply mean that he killed death from the "many layered" universe, which is the multiverse

Could be. Either way, my only point is that Marvel still canonically recognizes Death being erased by the Beyonder. This means they also acknowledge the fact that half of a cube being has sufficient power to end her.

Originally posted by Galan007
Could be. Either way, my only point is that Marvel still canonically recognizes Death being erased by the Beyonder. This means they also acknowledge the fact that half of a cube being has sufficient power to end her.

Just for giggles, did you know this event was referenced ON PANEL after the Beyonder retcon in an issue of Quasar? So it's confirmed beyond all doubt.

Originally posted by zopzop
Worse than that, it means that the ENTIRE Cosmic Hierarchy which included the LT, was powerless to stop him.

Just for giggles, did you know this event was referenced ON PANEL after the Beyonder retcon in an issue of Quasar? So it's confirmed beyond all doubt.

Death being erased, however, is still 100% canon.

Which doesn't make sense friend. (not your fault)

Even if Death was universal, a half-cube being shouldn't be able to do that.

Imo, it's either the Bio overlooks Beyonder's limitations,
because in a couple of bios including Eternity's bio
Beyonder's the poster child as a reference to what can threaten Eternity itself.

Or, Beyonder is a special case, and is being considered an all powerful being in bios,
which doesn't fall to far away from 2010 depictions of his power remaking All Creation,
3 times in the hands of 3 individuals, in one nano second no less.

Originally posted by Galan007
To be fair, it was revealed/retconned afterward that the Celestials had projected an illusion into Beyonder's mind which made him *think* he was more powerful than them. For sanity's sake, I'll go ahead and assume the other higher-end cosmics did something similar.

Beyonder's Master edition 1993 bio, acknowledges that the celestials put beyonder under an illusion but at the same time, confirms that he killed death, so that doesn't work either

http://i.imgur.com/WfdxqAf.jpg?1

So what this bio is saying: Celestials > Beyonder > MU combined including LT.

Originally posted by operator616
Beyonder's Master edition 1993 bio, acknowledges that the celestials put beyonder under an illusion but at the same time, confirms that he killed death, so that doesn't work either

http://i.imgur.com/WfdxqAf.jpg?1

So what this bio is saying: Celestials > Beyonder > MU combined including LT.

And a Celestial was killed by an Asgardian-enchanted axe, so:

Asgardians > Celestials > Beyonder > MU combined including LT.
💃

Originally posted by operator616
Beyonder's Master edition 1993 bio, acknowledges that the celestials put beyonder under an illusion but at the same time, confirms that he killed death, so that doesn't work either

http://i.imgur.com/WfdxqAf.jpg?1

So what this bio is saying: Celestials > Beyonder > MU combined including LT.

However, this notion opens the shit-storm even more. Per this line of thinking, Franklin Richards(who possessed power =/> Celestials) would be capable of erasing Death under the right circumstances.

^^ The bios are nutty on this one.

Originally posted by operator616

Beyonder's Master edition 1993 bio, acknowledges that the
celestials put beyonder under an illusion but at the same time,
confirms that he killed death, so that doesn't work either

http://i.imgur.com/WfdxqAf.jpg?1

So what this bio is saying: Celestials > Beyonder > MU combined including LT.

Originally posted by Galan007
No, that excerpt says: Celestials>Beyonder>Death. It gives no info regarding where the other members of the cosmic hierarchy fit into the equation. However, we can assume that anyone more powerful than a Celestial(ie. LT) would be more powerful than Beyonder and Death by proxy.

However, this notion opens the shit-storm even more. Per this line of thinking, Franklin Richards(who possessed power =/> Celestials) would be capable of erasing Death under the right circumstances.

It was actually shown on panel in Quasar #38, (1992), that's what zop was referring to:

http://i.imgur.com/1mboPff.jpg

so......

Originally posted by operator616
It was actually shown on panel in Quasar #38, (1992), that's what zop was referring to:

http://i.imgur.com/1mboPff.jpg

so......

In post-retcon continuity, we know: LT>Celestials>full cube beings>half cube beings=Beyonder>Death. Based on that, anyone =/> a cube being should technically be capable of erasing Death, and anyone < a cube being should technically *not* be capable of erasing Death.

Where the other SW abstracts fit into the equation is entirely dependent on where you believe their power ranks, relative to the others.