Wonder Woman h2h gauntlet

Diana is depowered but got peak human stats and can is fully adapted skillwise to those stats.

Rules: no gear, fight to kill, KO or tapout.
Setting: In a bar.
Starting distance 10 ft

1: Rorschac
2: Batgirl (Barbara Brown)
3: Hawkeye
4: Moon Knight
5: Daredevil
6: Taskmaster
7: Black Panther
8: Temugin

Feel free to change the order.

Lol I just made the same thread.

Probably stops @4

Stops or splits at 4

Stops at 5

Doesn't make it past Clint.

If the opponents don't get their weapons either, then she stops a 5.

I'll go with 5 as well.

there's a good chance that she stops at 4, but she is definatly not going to make it past 5.

dd beats her for certain. she could beat clint, not sure about a majority though.

Don't know why DD would beat her for certain. She's one of the most skilled fighters in DC

not so sure that can be born out by her showings pre or post reboot.... she does have a few good showings, but she has several lesser than great ones as well. can't see her beating dd with their stats equalized. maybe she could take a couple, but no way she beats him for a majority imo.

because of his superhuman senses? For starters I mean.

If she's one of the most skilled, then why does she have so much trouble with people around her strength level.....because guys like Cap, Batman and DD have beaten people that are litterally several times stronger than them.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
because of his superhuman senses? For starters I mean.

i think his senses would certainly help, but i think he's simply more skilled based on his performances against skilled h2h combatants.

Originally posted by Silent Master
If she's one of the most skilled, then why does she have so much trouble with people around her strength level.....because guys like Cap, Batman and DD have beaten people that are litterally several times stronger than them.

Things don't really scale that way when you get into the big leagues. By that logic, people like Herc also aren't that skilled.

I'm far from a Wonder Woman expert, but she's been referred to as the most skilled martial artist on Earth, the most skilled among the Amazons many times (a race who pretty much only does fighting), and has a bunch of good combat feats, IIRC including some with sensory deprivation (e.g. blindfolded).

Originally posted by Cogito
Things don't really scale that way when you get into the big leagues. By that logic, people like Herc also aren't that skilled.

I'm far from a Wonder Woman expert, but she's been referred to as the most skilled martial artist on Earth, the most skilled among the Amazons many times (a race who pretty much only does fighting), and has a bunch of good combat feats, IIRC including some with sensory deprivation (e.g. blindfolded).

If only that were true in practice...but it's not, characters like WW, Thor and Herc have all been described as extremely skilled, but that supposed skill almost never seems to come into play against people in or around their power tier.

Originally posted by Silent Master
If only that were true in practice...but it's not, characters like WW, Thor and Herc have all been described as extremely skilled, but that supposed skill almost never seems to come into play against people in or around their power tier.

That's because it's just not necessary. Sometimes writers will play it up, but most of the time not. That goes for everyone in the tier. You've kind of just got to roll with it, just as the highest tiers don't really have feats. She still has some great feats and big time statements (from characters and narration). Those don't just go away...

The problem is, that the examples of them being no more skilled than the average top tier out-number the skill feats by at least 100 to 1..which means they'll get written off as an outlier or PIS etc.

Don't believe me, start a equal bodies thread that puts either WW or Thor against Superman and see what happens.

For the flip side, just look at the Batman gets the Super Skrull's powers thread.

Originally posted by Silent Master
If only that were true in practice...but it's not, characters like WW, Thor and Herc have all been described as extremely skilled, but that supposed skill almost never seems to come into play against people in or around their power tier.

You're aware that I said "almost" never, right?