Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
KHANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN.....................................loses and loses badly
Dats right. uhuh
Originally posted by Mindship
I'm inclined to agree here. But Khan would be (to borrow Superman's oft-used line) "the toughest opponent [he] ever faced."
Fair.
Originally posted by KingD19Quit letting your bias cloud your judgment.
What in Dante's 9 Circles of Hell makes you think Khan can win? Aside from those late night visits you get from Cumberbatch and JJ Abrams.Bruce already has much faster reaction times and was strong enough to send people flying and one-shot martial arts masters.
Now he's got Cap's abilities stacked on top of his own. Meaning he's even faster, and stronger since Cap was a feeb before he got the powers.
Red Skull easily dented solid steel, Bruce will punch a hole in Khan. From 1 inch away.
Khan is far greater than any human as Lee was not. He was not even hurt at all by all out Kirk punches.
Khan beats him down. He beat the crap out of Spock and resisted the Vulcan pinch.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Quit letting your bias cloud your judgment.Khan is far greater than any human as Lee was not. He was not even hurt at all by all out Kirk punches.
Khan beats him down. He beat the crap out of Spock and resisted the Vulcan pinch.
Read the OP, dumbass. Lee isn't a normal human here.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I base my opinion on fact and evidence.
No, you really dont, I wonder if you even know what the words Face and Evidence actually mean. You support your favorite character to the point of idiocy, which is the very ideal of the same Bias that you claim others are doing themselves.
Originally posted by DTMI used the word fact not face, kid.
No, you really dont, I wonder if you even know what the words Face and Evidence actually mean. You support your favorite character to the point of idiocy, which is the very ideal of the same Bias that you claim others are doing themselves.
I back my case by evidence unlike you.
Originally posted by DTMKhan wasn't even harmed by all out Kirk. His cells regenerate too quickly for Cap. Lee to have a chance.
Awww, thats right, everything I said means nothing because I made a typo. Eh, compared to how foolishly you normally debate, thats actually a really sound argument for YOU.
Uh, and Cap would have been hurt by Kirks punches, really? Keep in mind Kirk during that time was hardly at full strength, so no his strikes were not him going all out.
Cap is Khans physical equal, Lee is Khans superior in HTH fighting skills, this match while close is all too easy to decide in the end.
Originally posted by DTMWhy wasn't he at full strength ? He sat back and watched khan save his life.
Uh, and Cap would have been hurt by Kirks punches, really? Keep in mind Kirk during that time was hardly at full strength, so no his strikes were not him going all out.Cap is Khans physical equal, Lee is Khans superior in HTH fighting skills, this match while close is all too easy to decide in the end.
I disagree and again cellular regeneration seals the deal.
Khan wins.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I disagree and again cellular regeneration seals the deal.
Then we also have Emil Blonsky's destroyed body healing up completely from Hulk's beating within a matter of days(it actually only took one day iirc, which makes it even more impressive). And to top it all off, he was given only a frozen rip-off of the original superserum which jacked up Cap into a physical beast.
So no, regeneration doesn't seal the deal, as Khan has no advantages in that area(healing factor) either.
Originally posted by TheGodKillerKhan's blood is so spectacular it regenerates and heals fatal illnesses and with the proper medical procedure can resurrect someone back to life.
Cap also had regenerative abilities. He could never get get drunk or intoxicated because his liver/(other vital organs) would simply regenerate from the damage that these substances would cause.Then we also have Emil Blonsky's destroyed body healing up completely from Hulk's beating within a matter of days(it actually only took one day iirc, which makes it even more impressive). And to top it all off, he was given only a frozen rip-off of the original superserum which jacked up Cap into a physical beast.
So no, regeneration doesn't seal the deal, as Khan has no advantages in that area(healing factor) either.
Cap has never done so and has not shown himself to be at Khan's level. He is superior in every way which also includes intellect coupled with a ruthlessness Lee cannot account for.
Superior in every way? From his movie alone Cap has several feats that eclipse everything Khan has done and put Cap clearly beyond him physically.
And you don't seem to realize Bruce's stats will stack. Meaning he'll be even more powerful than Cap, because Steve Rogers was puny and a weakling before the experiment.
Originally posted by KingD19Such as ?
Superior in every way? From his movie alone Cap has several feats that eclipse everything Khan has done and put Cap clearly beyond him physically.And you don't seem to realize Bruce's stats will stack. Meaning he'll be even more powerful than Cap, because Steve Rogers was puny and a weakling before the experiment.
You are guessing they will stack due to bias clouding your judgment.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Such as ?You are guessing they will stack due to bias clouding your judgment.
Red Skull easily denting solid steel.
Cap holding up roughly 1200lbs of weight over his head with his hands extended.
Punching through submarine glass.
Sending people flying much farther than Khan ever did.
Shield tossing a hidden sniper that no one else even noticed.
And I'm not guessing, it was stated in the movie by Dr. Erskine.
"The serum was not ready. But more important, the man. The serum amplifies everything that is inside, so good becomes great; bad becomes worse. This is why you were chosen. Because the strong man who has known power all his life, may lose respect for that power, but a weak man knows the value of strength, and knows... compassion.
Everything is amplified. Strength, speed, agility, sense of compassion, etc... Everything you are in every way is made better. It's right there. No bias. I simply watched the movie.
But I always crack up when you have the nerve to toss out bias.
Originally posted by KingD19These aren't greater than crushing a human skull and he did knock people back further. Try being honest for once in a debate. This is also Lee so the states don't transfer over anyways.
Red Skull easily denting solid steel.Cap holding up roughly 1200lbs of weight over his head with his hands extended.
Punching through submarine glass.
Sending people flying much farther than Khan ever did.
Shield tossing a hidden sniper that no one else even noticed.
And I'm not guessing, it was stated in the movie by Dr. Erskine.
"The serum was not ready. But more important, the man. The serum [b]amplifies everything
that is inside, so good becomes great; bad becomes worse. This is why you were chosen. Because the strong man who has known power all his life, may lose respect for that power, but a weak man knows the value of strength, and knows... compassion.Everything is amplified. Strength, speed, agility, sense of compassion, etc... Everything you are in every way is made better. It's right there. No bias. I simply watched the movie.
But I always crack up when you have the nerve to toss out bias. [/B]