Punching through submarine glass and denting steel are indeed greater strength feats than crushing a very old man's skull.
I'm always honest. It's you who wanks your preferred character until the other guy has like 80 votes to your 1.
Also, I don't know what you mean by that. I was saying as Lee was already lightning fast, pretty strong for his size, etc, etc, all of that will be boosted when he gets the serum. He'll be stronger than Cap, faster and more agile than Cap, etc because Bruce was already so far beyond Steve.
Originally posted by KingD19Lee was getting his ass kicked against an older man with a claw. Khan wrecks the amped Lee. Cell regeneration is the key.
Punching through submarine glass and denting steel are indeed greater strength feats than crushing a very old man's skull.I'm always honest. It's you who wanks your preferred character until the other guy has like 80 votes to your 1.
Also, I don't know what you mean by that. I was saying as Lee was already lightning fast, pretty strong for his size, etc, etc, all of that will be boosted when he gets the serum. He'll be stronger than Cap, faster and more agile than Cap, etc because Bruce was already so far beyond Steve.
Originally posted by KingD19Khan would not lose due to the mirror room against some scruby old man.
Lee was only losing that fight because of the mirror room. You always seem to neglect to remember circumstances.In a straight fight Khan gets One Inch Punched into paste.
False. Khan crushes his skull.
Originally posted by KingD19
Punching through submarine glass and denting steel are indeed greater strength feats than crushing a very old man's skull.I'm always honest. It's you who wanks your preferred character until the other guy has like 80 votes to your 1.
Also, I don't know what you mean by that. I was saying as Lee was already lightning fast, pretty strong for his size, etc, etc, all of that will be boosted when he gets the serum. He'll be stronger than Cap, faster and more agile than Cap, etc because Bruce was already so far beyond Steve.
Thats not really how the serum works, it doesnt just augment the starting subjects stats, it transforms the subject to the Peak of human potential. So basically any man taking the SSS would be physically the same, as would any woman compared to other women who took the serum.
But I solidly agree with your vote, a SSS amped Lee would definately beat Khan in a HTH only match.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Khan's blood is so spectacular it regenerates and heals fatal illnesses and with the proper medical procedure can resurrect someone back to life.Cap has never done so and has not shown himself to be at Khan's level. He is superior in every way which also includes intellect coupled with a ruthlessness Lee cannot account for.
No, he really isn't. Maybe in terms of purely scientific intellect, but Cap has bested smart villains as well in the past. Cap's strength and general h2h feats are also better than Khan's. And Cap didn't even have one-millionth the martial skill which Lee's movie incarnations possess.
Lee, jacked up on the Supersoldier Serum, clearly and effortlessly wins.
Originally posted by KingD19
"The serum was not ready. But more important, the man. The serum [b]amplifies everything that is inside, so good becomes great; bad becomes worse. This is why you were chosen. Because the strong man who has known power all his life, may lose respect for that power, but a weak man knows the value of strength, and knows... compassion.[/B]
Regular Lee would have a considerable chance to take down Khan on his own, amping him up on Supersoldier serum juice is just pure spite against Nu-Khan.
Oh theres plenty of "serum juice" around here alright.
In yet another of Qunachi's "I spend all day yanking at Van Khancow's 'teet'..!!!! Why is the tablespoon full of 'milk' produced able to hang my wallpaper and be used as hair gel?"
Why does he keep blaming his Ipod for frustrated looking mistakes in spelling and grammar?
Because you can't even easily type on one with your chin whilst your left is engaged in wanking Van Zan and the other is beating off Khan.
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Exactly. Blonsky went from good ol' special ops soldier to gladiator mentality monster.Regular Lee would have a considerable chance to take down Khan on his own, amping him up on Supersoldier serum juice is just pure spite against Nu-Khan.
Nah let's not go that far. As skilled as regular Lee is he isn't strong enough to properly hurt Khan. Supersoldier Lee though is overkill.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Nah let's not go that far. As skilled as regular Lee is he isn't strong enough to properly hurt Khan. Supersoldier Lee though is overkill.
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Khan would only have the stats advantage over him. That hardly means that he could easily win. Regular Lee would most definitely give him a fight.
"Stats advantage" means that Khan is stronger and faster and has every other physical advantage over regular Lee except skill. Sure Khan can't just walk all over Lee, but it won't be such a difficult fight either.
Khan's advantage over regular Lee is about as big as an advantage as Supersoldier Lee has over Khan.
Originally posted by FrothByte
"Stats advantage" means that Khan is stronger and faster and has every other physical advantage over regular Lee except skill. Sure Khan can't just walk all over Lee, but it won't be such a difficult fight either.Khan's advantage over regular Lee is about as big as an advantage as Supersoldier Lee has over Khan.
Regular Lee could most definitely give Khan a fight before going down. Spock was able to do so.
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Nope, I don't see it that way. Stats advantage doesn't mean you automatically beat the physically inferior guy easily. I wouldn't give Cap the easy win over Natasha Romanoff, nor did Loki himself gain the easy win over Cap himself despite the considerable strength/speed advantage.Regular Lee could most definitely give Khan a fight before going down. Spock was able to do so.
Spock is supposed to be around 3x human strength (IIRC) with a whole lot of ancient martial arts training. Though Lee has the training, he doesn't have the strength.
Loki was toying with Captain America. Cap hit him like what, 2 times? And Loki didn't even go down except during the first hit where Loki's own staff bolt hit him.
Or maybe we're actually debating the same thing just using different terminologies?
I do agree that Khan doesn't simply walk all over Lee. But Khan does get to win 10/10 over regular Lee. Khan doesn't finish the fight easily, but he's also in very little danger of losing the fight.
Originally posted by ImpedimentEven this depowered Bruce Lee wins with 1 hit.
Lee (Bruce Lee from Enter the Dragon) vs Khan (Into Darkness).The super soldier serum from Captain America: The First Avenger has been administered to Lee; he is now a martial arts super soldier.
Khan is at full health.
Neither have knowledge of each other.
Fight takes place in Emperor Palpatine's throne room on the Death Star II from ROTJ. Both start 50 feet apart.
Hand to hand, to the death.
Bloodlusted with no CIS.
Who wins?
Originally posted by FrothByte
Spock is supposed to be around 3x human strength (IIRC) with a whole lot of ancient martial arts training.
But JJ's version of Spock, has Spock turning his back on Vulcan ways for Starfleet & then destroying his home planet...so he never really pursued martial arts training.
Originally posted by Esau Cairn
But JJ's version of Spock, has Spock turning his back on Vulcan ways for Starfleet & then destroying his home planet...so he never really pursued martial arts training.
I don't know man. He still used that nerve pinch thing, and that's supposed to be one of those signature Vulcan martial arts moves that you can't do without training.