Kratos vs Machamp

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Kratos vs Machamp

Kratos has his standard equipment who wins.

Does Machamp stick to a designated moveset, or can he just use anything?

Lets have him do any move he wants to make it fair.

I think Kratos would come up on top.

Kratos

I'd argue that a lot of this depends on whether or not you let Machamp's stat decreasing moves affect Kratos. Like, if you'll let Scary Face lower his speed or not. But as it stands Kratos outclasses Machamp. So that means Machamp needs to take advantage of those stat decreasing moves, as well as other moves like Toxic, Double Team, Attract, Thief, and so on.

Say for example, does Power Trick work on Kratos? Or Knock Off?

A specific game for Kratos would help, too.

I remember when I made this thread years ago. ScreamPaste and NemeBro were at eachothers throats debating whether or not Kratos can dodge Machamp's punches since he can dodge Zeus' lightning. Good times.

Going by what the POke'dex says, and going by what we've seen Machamp do...is he really anywhere even near Kratos?

Machamp is stronger than Kratos, and until recently arguably as fast. (Faster until GoW3 came out, but meh.) The strength gap isn't what it used to be, however.

So what do you think about moves like Scary Face, Paste? Should they be allowed to work? We could do math!

I do enjoy math. mmm

I'm actually unsure to what degree which status effects would impact Kratos.

I know what you mean. I want to say just to calc it as the percentage in game for simplicity's sake. But that opens the way to use Pokemon stats as representations of ability, and that's a messy can of worms. It also just plain isn't fair, and puts stats on characters that don't belong in that system.

But then if you count it based solely on move descriptions, it won't work. Kratos won't get slower 'cause Machamp looked at him funny. 😬 But at the same time, it is an ability and seems wrong to deny it to the Pokemon.

Yeah, it's one of those Unknowables (tm)

Machamp is stronger based on what? Pokedex descriptions? Because I haven't seen many Machamp feats that put him anywhere near Kratos' level.

He should literally be pulping other poke'mon if he's that strong.

Originally posted by KingD19
Machamp is stronger based on what? Pokedex descriptions? Because I haven't seen many Machamp feats that put him anywhere near Kratos' level.

He should literally be pulping other poke'mon if he's that strong.

Other pokemon have even more ****ed up feats than Machamp, who can move a mountain with one hand, and has four.

Indeed. I read recently that one theory for the existence of Pokemon is that they're all energy beings or something. And other much crazier theories exist, like Slowpoke being omniscient. Yet they all make a lot of sense.

If any of them are true, that's even more reason to think carefully about this.

Happiny- Base Attack stat 5

Machamp- Base Attack stat 130

Kratos

Aha, Brock's Happiny. So damn awesome.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Machamp is stronger than Kratos
It isn't.

Kratos cuts Machamp's head off. None of that "fainting" bullshit here.