Originally posted by ScreamPasteDefine "mountain", first of all.
I'd like to see a strength feat above palming mountains from Kratos. 🙂
Mount Wycheproof is only 43 meters tall. So please, quantify Machamp's strength based solely on the word "mountain" for me.
Was able to hold his ground and not be overpowered by (As well as tank) an explosion that destroyed a pillar that held up the crust of the planet (Its destruction is the reason Atlas had to bear the burden).
Also, you've never debunked Atlas. 👆
Nor addressed that Kratos overpowered an arm of Atlas in Chains of Olympus. 👆
Originally posted by NemeBro
Define "mountain", first of all.Mount Wycheproof is only 43 meters tall. So please, quantify Machamp's strength based solely on the word "mountain" for me.
Was able to hold his ground and not be overpowered by (As well as tank) an explosion that destroyed a pillar that held up the crust of the planet (Its destruction is the reason Atlas had to bear the burden).
Also, you've never debunked Atlas. 👆
Nor addressed that Kratos overpowered an arm of Atlas in Chains of Olympus. 👆
Atlas was not trying to crush Kratos in GoW2, this has always been the case.
Show me the scene from CoO.
Originally posted by BloodRain
GoW Herc did what? O.o
Her performed the 12 Labors of Hercules in GoW. And they're the same as in mythology.
The 11th Labor was to fetch the Apples of Hesperides which were guarded by a dragon and Atlas' daughters. Hercules held up the world/heavens while he got Atlas to get the apples for him.
Originally posted by KingD19The basis for this one is a liiiittle shaky, since GoW diverges pretty strongly from actual Greek myth and the only thing pointing to Herc doing this is the implication he did the labours, Atlas nor Herc ever mentions it.
Her performed the 12 Labors of Hercules in GoW. And they're the same as in mythology.The 11th Labor was to fetch the Apples of Hesperides which were guarded by a dragon and Atlas' daughters. Hercules held up the world/heavens while he got Atlas to get the apples for him.
I'm not outright condemning it, I'm just saying it's shaky.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
The basis for this one is a liiiittle shaky, since GoW diverges pretty strongly from actual Greek myth and the only thing pointing to Herc doing this is the implication he did the labours, Atlas nor Herc ever mentions it.I'm not outright condemning it, I'm just saying it's shaky.
It does diverge, but unless shown or stated otherwise, we assume events unfolded the same way in GoW as they did in the actual myths.
Hercules having to lift shit for a while is brought up in secondary canon, but there it's mentioned that he lifted the sky. srug
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Lowball harder, using the smallest mountain in the world, which still has a town on it, by the way, does nothing except damage your own credibility. Besides which point no mountain that small has yet been seen in pokeymans.
Provide a number. Seriously, prove exactly how strong that statement in the Pokedex makes Machamp.
Were this Machamp versus, oh, I dunno, Dante, or some other douchebag, I would nod and say "sure, he's stronger", but he is fighting someone with strength feats in the island+ range of weight. Machamp doesn't have enough backing to make him stronger than Kratos.
Atlas was not trying to crush Kratos in GoW2, this has always been the case.
Prove this statement.
Show me the scene from CoO.
About two minutes in.
The second chain Kratos throws on Atlas actually forces Atlas' hand to the bottom of the world.
Also:
35 seconds in or so, Kratos is punched by Atlas. He recovers instantly, and is none the worse for wear.
Frankly, you have no legitimate argument. We already know for a fact that Hades can restrain and ensnare Hades with his soul chains. We've seen him do it. Kratos resisted and overpowered Hades.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrCPUx_Ae9s&t=4m40s
At no point did Atlas use the full strength of two of his fingers on Kratos.
He's actively questioning Kratos the entire time he's between his fingers.
As for that video, that's the stupidest thing I've seen in GoW so far haermm I'm supposed to believe a guy that can hold up part of Greece can't pull those chains out of three feet of rock? Kratos threw them hard enough to stick in stone, and they are huge, impressive chains, but there has to be more context. Are they magical super awesome chains/rock? I haven't paid attention to the portable GoW games, but I feel like I'm missing something important here.
In GoW 2 Kratos could barely keep apart Atlas' fine grip strength, lol. Also, no, he was not punched by Atlas, watch again, he's intercepted by Persephone.
It's also pretty clear during another cutscene where Kratos barely dodges Atlas' descending fist that it would have been bad, bad times for him.
Finally, the only time I can recall Hades looking good strengthwise when compared to Atlas was when he had magic hooks in him and Poseidon was blasting him with lightning at the same time. Atlas barely resisted.
