Meaning he eased up while Kratos was desperately trying to plead his case and had already expended himself.
Here's what it said before that:
'The Ghost of Sparta knew his own fighting prowess. He also knew that luck had aided him in chaining Atlas.'
"I will make you suffer, Kratos."
"Atlas! You must trust me. Much has passed since last we met."
Kratos groaned as Atlas reached up with a hand large enough and strong enough to balance the world itself to crush him. He was caught between thumb and forefinger.
"Why would I ever trust a servant of Zeus?"
"Because I seek to destroy Zeus." Kratos grated out the words.
'His breath gusted from his lungs under the tremendous pressure of Atlas' fingers closing. It took all of his own effort to force his hands into the thumb and finger to keep apart the deadly vise. Despite his own superhuman strength, he was as weak as a mewling baby in the Titan's grip.'
Kratos strength at his max effort was described as;
'As weak as a mewling baby in the Titan's grip.'
Considering that's a relative description, that's mighty impressive.
The part you posted came after this:
'The effort of holding apart the Titan's digits sapped his strength.'
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrCPUx_Ae9s&t=4m40sAt no point did Atlas use the full strength of two of his fingers on Kratos.
He's actively questioning Kratos the entire time he's between his fingers.
So can you prove he didn't use the full-strength of his fingers?
As for that video, that's the stupidest thing I've seen in GoW so far haermm I'm supposed to believe a guy that can hold up part of Greece can't pull those chains out of three feet of rock? Kratos threw them hard enough to stick in stone, and they are huge, impressive chains, but there has to be more context. Are they magical super awesome chains/rock? I haven't paid attention to the portable GoW games, but I feel like I'm missing something important here.
You are not. Kratos restrained one of Atlas' arms. Deal with it, my son.
In GoW 2 Kratos could barely keep apart Atlas' fine grip strength, lol. Also, no, he was not punched by Atlas, watch again, he's intercepted by Persephone.
True on the interception, but speculation on the first.
It's also pretty clear during another cutscene where Kratos barely dodges Atlas' descending fist that it would have been bad, bad times for him.
Are you implying that I think Kratos can withstand all of Atlas' attacks without any injury?
Because I never said that.
Finally, the only time I can recall Hades looking good strengthwise when compared to Atlas was when he had magic hooks in him and Poseidon was blasting him with lightning at the same time. Atlas barely resisted.
There was also the time he pulled a Titan off of Mount Olympus without much effort and without being at full size. He also just straight up overpowered Cronos in his entirety.
As for his "magic hooks", considering Kratos overpowered Hades who was using the same magic hooks, I fail to see the relevance.
You'd know all of this if you played the game. You didn't, yet you make sweeping statements concerning it anyway.
Kratos easily kills Machamp with a single attack.
Machamp can at least send a train flying with a single punch according. Then you'll get Nemebro saying "how long of a train? how long of a flight?"
If we see the pokedex, Machamp can move "mountains", if Nemebro is going to read that as "it can be a tiny mountain shy mountain", it can also be read as "several mountains at once". I mean, why not? Its not as if it was still carrying mountains with a single arm, and throw 1000 punches in two seconds. And it can move before he even thinks too (Nemebro here jumps in saying "how fast does a Machamp think? For all we know it's nothing). Machamp knows all the martial arts in the world (Nemebro: how many martial arts are there in the pokemon world). Etc.
And that ignoring some of the inane "replies" that have been stated already.
Is this discussion even worth having?
Originally posted by Bentley
[B]Machamp can at least send a train flying with a single punch according. Then you'll get Nemebro saying "how long of a train? how long of a flight?"
Haha, look at this butthurt coward.
Neither of those questions are illogical or invalid. Also, neither put Machamp on the level of Kratos, but that is beside the point.
If we see the pokedex, Machamp can move "mountains", if Nemebro is going to read that as "it can be a tiny mountain shy mountain", it can also be read as "several mountains at once". I mean, why not?
You are exactly correct, which only illustrates the fact that the feat is vague and impossible to quantify. 👆
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not as if it was still carrying mountains with a single arm, and throw 1000 punches in two seconds.
The ability to throw 1,000 punches in two seconds equates to it being more or less mach 1-2. Which is thousands of times slower than Kratos' reaction-time, and unlike Machamp, whose punches are too fast for it to control, Kratos has no such limits.
And it can move before he even thinks too (Nemebro here jumps in saying "how fast does a Machamp think? For all we know it's nothing).
It's a shame that it can only move at mach 1.5, meaning that Machamp does indeed move slower than Kratos.
Machamp knows all the martial arts in the world (Nemebro: how many martial arts are there in the pokemon world). Etc.
I have no issue with the statement on Machamp's skill.
And that ignoring some of the inane "replies" that have been stated already.Is this discussion even worth having?
I have dissected your feeble rant until it convulsed in pleasure.
Begone foul beast.
So can you prove he didn't use the full-strength of his fingers?You must be deaf or something.
You are not. Kratos restrained one of Atlas' arms. Deal with it, my son.Do you have any idea how badly you just hurt your own argument? With nothing to rationalize the scene this turns from a high showing for Kratos to an extraordinarily low one for Atlas, who for some reason can't break the chains which you're telling me aren't special magical awesome chains, and are only sticking three feet deep into rock. He can't loose them? He can't break them? He's not strong enough to stop a fairly heavy chain thrown at him by someone who is explicitly as weak as a baby next to him by comparison?
True on the interception, but speculation on the first.The only speculation involved is that Atlas might've been trying to crush Kratos, which he was not, and no one has ever proved he was. 😐
The chains were forged by Haphaestus as part of Zeus' plans to keep the titans bound to Tartarus. Persephone freed Atlas from the chains and Kratos rebound him.
Besides, it takes some level of logic suspension to assume they were anything other than special in the first place, since this dude can hold up the planet. Also, Kratos launched those chains into the crust using Zeus' gauntlet.
And wtf kind of circular argument is saying "Atlas wasn't trying to crush Kratos, because he wasn't".
Yes. Atlas was trying to crush Kratos. What was he trying to do when he was pushing his fingers together? Massage Kratos' shoulders? It has been said so for years now, in the official strategy guide:
"The mighty Atlas does not take kindly to Kratos' meddling and attempts to crush him between his stony fingers. To keep them seperated, you must quickly alternate tapping L1 and R1. This happens twice before Atlas changes his mind and spares Kratos' life, offering him the last of his magic in order for the Spartan Warrior to defeat Zeus" Pg. 232 of the Collection strategy guide.
So there you have it. Kratos pushed back Atlas twice. And Atlas didn't try to crush Kratos a third time because he changed his mind about trying to crush him.
Anyway, being called a baby in comparison to Atlas is great. If a baby was small enough for me to even try to crush with just two fingers, yet kept the same strength of a normal sized baby, I would certainly expect its upper body strength to be enough to not be immediately crushed by my thumb + index finger strength.
The chains were forged by Haphaestus as part of Zeus' plans to keep the titans bound to Tartarus.Thank you, THIS is what I was looking for.
And wtf kind of circular argument is saying "Atlas wasn't trying to crush Kratos, because he wasn't".
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
What the **** kind of circular reasoning is Atlas was trying to crush Kratos because he was?
😐 Because what the f*** else was he doing? Again, massaging his shoulders?
The first source you pulled for this cited Kratos as explicitly being comparable to an infant next to Atlas. haermm
An infant is strong enough to push my finger and thumb back from crushing him. At least for awhile.
It is an impressive statement on Kratos' behalf, considering that book that BR cited says Atlas' lone hand was enough to balance the world if had to.
Either way, its impossible for it to be a lose situation on Kratos' behalf.
You've been retarded enough about this situation for years. Its sad that I even had to take the time to dig out an official statement on something that was obvious as all phuck.
