Sith Emperor (Vitiate) Respect Thread

Originally posted by Nephthys
Did someone blab to you about that quote? I knew I shouldn't have spread it around.

I am well pleased by this development. Thus is the death knell of the resurgent Vitiate faction.

1. Agreed.

2. I agree there is a possibility that he wasn't prepping. however, about that it's the most impressive combat display in the mythos, I may have to disagree. The reason being is because it's not like the power of each individual dcm is being channeled into one being. I believe it's harder to take down one immensely powerful being than multiple inferior beings. Like for example: I believe that, without preparation, Vitiate would have a more difficult time taking out, say, DE Palpatine, then 8 dark council members, because Vitiate is just way more powerful than each individual dark council member, and could utterly destroy them with, say, an FLS. Meanwhile, if faced with DE Palpatine, I dont think his FLS would kill Palpatine and the latter would be able to successfully defend himself. Just food for thought.

3. answered on 2

4. yup.

5. Maybe, but yoda has more to himself than impeccable force mastery, he is one of the greatest martial fighters to have ever existed.

6. yup

7. it's on that same codex website: http://www.swtor-spy.com/quests/doomsday/5871/
Scroll down to where it says "speak to the Emperor" and "Defeat the Emperor" and press "more" on each one.

8. k.

9. yup.

10. It is. I just don't think it's as drastic as having your heart(s) failing

11. I just want to see KOTOR documentation in general. Anything. The Star Forge is the most important part tho, i'd agree.

12. I'd agree that most of the time the speed feats" argument can be really retarded, and I personally it's relative to your power (example: I don't believe Vitiate is a sloth who'd get blitzed by Yoda/Sidious.) However, as I said, it's relative to power, and Plagueis strikes me as much more powerful than Nyriss. About the accolade, I wouldn't put too much stock in it either, however to even be referenced as such puts him quite a long way above Nyriss imo.

13. I agree that Revan's tutaminis is extremely good. However that alone wouldn't make me put him on par with Plagueis. Plagueis has a variety of good feats as well, I just don't know them all and need to find them. Perhaps a respect thread is in order.

14. Doesn't that revelation also talk about how they were unprepared and already teetering on the brink of the dark side?

To be continued later...

Originally posted by The_Tempest

I am well pleased by this development. Thus is the death knell of the resurgent Vitiate faction.

Merely a setback.

The faction seems to suffer from an embarrassingly high number of them.

Nah, not really.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
The faction seems to suffer from an embarrassingly high number of them.

And yet, those violent anarchists still plunged the galaxy into chaos.

I never understood Lucas' thought process in that instance, you have millions of worlds being controlled by the most powerful military stretched thin across the galaxy, and all the rebels do is take away their central command, effectively making their actions unanswerable to anyone.

edit: damnit, Dolos! You ninja'd me.

I don't know what I'm talking about right now Tempest.

I haven't slept in 48 hours.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Dammit! It was you?

I found the quote and gave it some others, but XSupreme found it himself independently to me.

That I did.

Thoughts on the implications of this anyone?

It confirms what I already knew: vitiate can't telepathically dominate the likes of Yoda, Sidious, HoT, Luke, etc.

That doesn't confirm that totally. I'd still argue that they're defenseless without knowledge of the Emperor's abilities. And I could still argue he could telepathically dominate them anyway.

It's a possibility, but I find it highly unlikely that it would happen, considering it specifically notes that the Hero was, "too powerful" and that he resists it without noticeable effort. I find it odd that Vitiate's telepathy is made out to be an infallible trump card.

Vitiate doesn't attempt it on her, as your own quote says.

Not infallible, but he is the most dominating telepath in the mythos imo. Luke had serious trouble resisting UnuThul and would have failed iirc were he not to have received aid.

Sure he'd attempt it on Luke, Sidious, and Yoda, but the chances of it working are pretty slim. None of them are newbs with telepathy.

sidious has comparable telepathic feats. Wasn't UnuThul drawing on, y'know, the entire Killik colony?

In your opinion. I disagree. They don't know how to defend against his technique, so nyeh!

No he doesn't. Yeah, and Vitiate has access to less power than that?

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
It confirms what I already knew: vitiate can't telepathically dominate the likes of Yoda, Sidious, HoT, Luke, etc.

Recheck this again:

"Realizing you are too powerful to be dominated by his twisted will, the Emperor has resorted to more conventional means to destroy you."

This is absolutely true for Revan versus Vitiate showdown as well. Key thing is how you perceive revelations.

Revan also summoned enormous power to prevent Vitiate from breaking him again during their second confrontation, so Vitiate resorted to more conventional means to defeat him.

HoT and Revan are special cases; both succumbed to Vitiate's telepathic influence once, broke free with external aid, and eventually came up with power-oriented countermeasures.

In contrast, situation of Yoda, Sidious and Luke is different.

And do not forget this:

"You've learned that the Emperor is on Dromund Kaas, temporarily weakened by your efforts thwarting his plan for galactic annihilation. Striking at him now is your best chance to defeat him once and for all."

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
It confirms what I already knew: vitiate can't telepathically dominate the likes of Yoda, Sidious, HoT, Luke, etc.

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To be honest, the quote is nice but really doesn't provide newfound revelation. The existence of limitations to Vitiate's mind-haxx have been examined and discussed at length for years.

He definitely can't enthrall the upper echelon of Force users, especially on the fly.