Namor vs Superman with a twist.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
The Super wankery is strong in this forum. Why is everyone ignoring the fact that the GL ring can shield its user from heat? Seriously every time a GL leaves or enters Earths orbit this happens.

Amped Namor wins here pretty solidly. If a regular human gets bumped all the way up to being one of Supermans peers if even a little below then a being like Namor with a weapon that can stab through Supes should take this 7/10.

Guess you missed my microwave scans then, right?

Not just heat.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Guess you missed my microwave scans then, right?

Not just heat.

The microwaves that are in space that GLs shield like second nature?

Originally posted by -Pr-
1. Heat vision is more than heat.

2. A ring doesn't automatically make you a peer of Superman.

3. It's Namor.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
...

Namor absorbs and redirects, Bishop-style:

biscuits

This obviously needs a bump.

Originally posted by namorsubby
Hes already has a million stalemates with every hulk imaginable.....Thor, beta Ray, surfer, black bolt, Hercules, etc, etc....and now he's a lantern with magic which just happens to be a weakness for superman. Come on guys.lol

Most of these guys would sell their children to wank Superman one last time. I post far less than I used to because of this. They approach battles thinking "How will my boy win this time?"

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Most of these guys would sell their children to wank Superman one last time. I post far less than I used to because of this. They approach battles thinking "How will my boy win this time?

Because nobody could genuinely think Superman could win, right?

If you're so sure that Superman has no chance of winning. why make the thread?

Originally posted by ares834
Holy shit. What's that from?

Originally posted by -Pr-
Because nobody could genuinely think Superman could win, right?

If you're so sure that Superman has no chance of winning. why make the thread?

I mean, I can post scans of Superman shattering John's GL constructs(Superman's strength>John's will.) I can also post scans of a no-name Kryptonian casually shattering the auto-shields of both Hal and John at the same time... And that's just the tip of the iceberg. This is Superman's fight to lose.

Originally posted by Galan007
Superman #23.4

...Or at the very least, give a good argument as to how Namor will win.

I mean, I can post scans of Superman shattering John's GL constructs(Superman's strength>John's will.) I can also post scans of a no-name Kryptonian casually shattering the auto-shields of both Hal and John at the same time... And that's just the tip of the iceberg. This is Superman's fight to lose.

😂

Namor already had enough willpower to withstand and or overcome powerful telepaths and illusionists. And he's already a 100+ class character who has slugged it out with all marvels elite heralds.that means If he breaks his constructs that doesn't automatically mean he's ktfo like human gls. First you guys were disregarding the ring, now you're disregarding Namors natural abilities.

Originally posted by namorsubby
Namor already had enough willpower to withstand and or overcome powerful telepaths and illusionists. And he's already a 100+ class character who has slugged it out with all marvels elite heralds.that means If he breaks his constructs that doesn't automatically mean he's ktfo like human gls. First you guys were disregarding the ring, now you're disregarding Namors natural abilities.

Originally posted by Galan007
Superman #23.4

...Or at the very least, give a good argument as to how Namor will win.

I mean, I can post scans of Superman shattering John's GL constructs(Superman's strength>John's will.) I can also post scans of a no-name Kryptonian casually shattering the auto-shields of both Hal and John at the same time... And that's just the tip of the iceberg. This is Superman's fight to lose.

What if we used DCnU?

Superman was casually busting Hal's constructs in JL. Someone who has more feats and experience with the ring than Namor.

He is now willing to use HV and microwaves more casually than before.

The trident, whilst an amp, is still a short range solution. Its not like it shoots magic lightning or anything....

Originally posted by abhilegend
Green Arrow has done that all. He was nearly exhausted by creating a single arrow because his will was cynical.

But just to be clear, you're pretty much banking your argument on the notion that Namor won't be able to effectively use the ring or reach an elite status due to his powerful will being tainted by cynicism?

Also, even if he did, Hal has better feats, Supes still broke him

Originally posted by namorsubby
No, he hasn't. Overcoming puppet master's control, seeing through an illusion that the rest of the defenders roster couldn't due to his will....high end superhuman will power feats.

But just to be clear, you're pretty much banking your argument on the notion that Namor won't be able to effectively use the ring or reach an elite status due to his powerful will being tainted by cynicism?

Essentially yes.

A simple construct to hold superman or cover his face for even a split second will be long enough for Namor to get close and stab him. You cant say thats not plausible. All it takes is a second. Like I said, with no trident Namor loses everytime.

[QUOTE=14515101]Originally posted by -Pr-
Because nobody could genuinely think Superman could win, right?

If you're so sure that Superman has no chance of winning. why make the thread? [/Q]

I thought perhaps the mods would serve to uphold the stated conditions of the battle and discourage simple cheerleading . I was wrong and that's why I said lock the thread.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
A simple construct to hold superman or cover his face for even a split second will be long enough for Namor to get close and stab him. You cant say thats not plausible. All it takes is a second. Like I said, with no trident Namor loses everytime.

Originally posted by Galan007
Superman #23.4

...Or at the very least, give a good argument as to how Namor will win.

I mean, I can post scans of Superman shattering John's GL constructs(Superman's strength>John's will.) I can also post scans of a no-name Kryptonian casually shattering the auto-shields of both Hal and John at the same time... And that's just the tip of the iceberg. This is Superman's fight to lose.

The argument is that an already physically powerful character capable of going toe to toe with the Hulk with a history of incredible willpower feats now has a powerful weapon fueled by willpower, thus making him that much more powerful . In addition, he has his own magic based cutting weapon that he could use to injure or kill Superman. He has one year of experience with the ring and he is already used to flying. Every argument for Superman so far eliminates or discounts the conditions with regard to Namor which defeats the purpose of the battle itself.

Its not quite like that.

Hal has a history of incredible willpower feats. Yet even his constructs were like paper to Superman, and he was being serious:

Yes, Namor has high willpower feats too. No one is saying he doesn't.

We're just saying it wouldn't be enough to amp him.

^ That's like saying a GL ring would be meaningless to Superman if he fought Wonder Woman since she's shattered Hal's constructs with ease as well.