Batman vs. Iron Man

Originally posted by Damborgson

That is actually how i feel as you may be able to tell by the posts

Originally posted by ODG
Prove it. What's the biggest or most extensive technological endeavor performed/produced by Batman? BTW, it has to at least be bigger than a partial Dyson Sphere designed to deal with multiverse-wide systemic collapse scenarios.

Originally posted by ODG
Your bumbling negative proof fallacy isn't remedying your completely inability to formulate an argument. I don't have to prove a negative, i.e., Batman can't overcome Iron Man's tech. You have to prove your argument, i.e., Batman can ovecome Iron Man's tech. I gave you a convenient list of Tony's tech in addition to two of the most powerful armors he's worn. You've given me nothing.

You either have arguments proving that Batman can deal with the multiple armors and weapons Tony has, or you don't.

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Originally posted by Odekahn
It's not a science contest.

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Originally posted by Odekahn
You don't have to be a Master Troll when you're right.

so then you're a troll GTK 😎 💃 💃 🐰

Originally posted by Odekahn
Batman hasn't fought Ironman before, so asking for on panel proof where Batman implements such tactics (aka directed at Tony) doesn't exist.

However, Batman could use any combination of Nth Metal, Nano technology, EMP attacks, frequency jammers, traps, decoys, etc etc etc.

what is that meant to show. You might as well have shown the Batman/Spectre scan again for as much as that showed (which in case you're wondering is jack all) seeing as all you showed in the scan was the bat pressing a button and Cyborg fzkxng out

Originally posted by Odekahn
Phantom zone technology, anti matter exploitation, AI, Battle Drones (like in Kingdom Come), gasses etc etc etc

All of which Tony has a better version off. And LROFL 🤣 @ gasses

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Originally posted by pym-ftw
Tony has more options than Batman can prep for In a week.
bump for truth.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
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The no limits fallacy of the Marvel front is laughable. So IM if prepped cannot be hurt by anyone? His armor isn't imprevious to harm, not by a long stretch. Batman has faught much more powerful enemies and hurt them. Tony can't prep to become invulnerable to all harm. Acid, EMP, Hacking, Nanobots, energyoverload or simply weapons capable of damaging or even destroying his armor are all good and valid possiblities. Batman has build enough weapons and devices to damage Heralds, so he can do the same with IM.
Brothey eye was pre-DCNU Batmans invention, build by his staff and his resources, and it's OMACs would shit all over tony. His Insider suit and his other techincal devies are also a proof that he can build high end armor and weapons that can damage IM armor. Tony can't prep against every possible attack.
Batman has just one disadvantage, and that is Tonys superior tech, superior in that sense that it can dish out more damge. But he isn't invulnerable.
Batman has every other advantage, being the better fighter, strategist, psychologist and prep expert.
How will Im even defeat Batman, he won't see him, neither with his eyes nor his sensors, he will fight Ghosts and get hit from multiple locations by weapons capable of doing damage. It will be a guerilla fight against an invisible opponent, who will play with his mind, emotions and exhaust him in more then one way. Tony is outclassed in a prep war against someone like Batman.
But well. If you are not familiar with both chars and just look at Tonys armor and Batmans belt, ignore everything else, most important the prep, then yeah, Tony will win. If you take prep and both chars and their portrayals into consideration, you will see that Batman wins, 8/10 if not more.

BTW Tony is IM, that is well know, Batmans secret identity is secret. He also has this advantage and can prep even better. This might even end in an slaughter not a contest, if Bats fights dirty, which he will.

Nobody has stated that a prepped Iron-man cannot be hurt, nice attempt at a strawman.

Once again, Tony is prepping as well. With all his tech and all he's done, Bruce wouldn't be invisible for long. Tony's tech is at the level where there is almost no hiding from him if he wants to find you. Atleast I don't believe Bruce to be capable to do it. It requires more than savvy know how to hide from him these days. It takes SERIOUS tech muscle, and Tony simply has Bats beat there.

Superman's senses>>>>Tony's tech if batman can develop a suit to completely make himself invisible to Superman Tony won't be finding him.

Please leave Superman and batman`s bromance out of this. Everytime Batman looks good against Clark, it`s simply Clark sparring Bruce`s feelings. We all know this.

Originally posted by SasuOna
Superman's senses>>>>Tony's tech if batman can develop a suit to completely make himself invisible to Superman Tony won't be finding him.

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So Tony won't find Batman, who can be invisble by multiple ways each countering everything tony can think of because he will prep that way, while tony, who Batman has all intel on he needs, will get assaulted by multiple weapons that can damage his armor. After a while he will go down. Glad we agree, except those few lunatics who believe that IM armor can't be damaged dur

Originally posted by JayDaDon
Please leave Superman and batman`s bromance out of this. Everytime Batman looks good against Clark, it`s simply Clark sparring Bruce`s feelings. We all know this.

Batman only made that suit as a favor to clark after all. If he wanted he could make much worse but it had to be said since people seem to believe Tony's armor would allow him any insight when batman dissappears

You're aware that Tony also has stealth tech, so how exactly is Batman going to find him in order to damage him?

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
The no limits fallacy of the Marvel front is laughable. So IM if prepped cannot be hurt by anyone? His armor isn't imprevious to harm, not by a long stretch. Batman has faught much more powerful enemies and hurt them. Tony can't prep to become invulnerable to all harm. Acid, EMP, Hacking, Nanobots, energyoverload or simply weapons capable of damaging or even destroying his armor are all good and valid possiblities. Batman has build enough weapons and devices to damage Heralds, so he can do the same with IM.
Brothey eye was pre-DCNU Batmans invention, build by his staff and his resources, and it's OMACs would shit all over tony. His Insider suit and his other techincal devies are also a proof that he can build high end armor and weapons that can damage IM armor. Tony can't prep against every possible attack.
Batman has just one disadvantage, and that is Tonys superior tech, superior in that sense that it can dish out more damge. But he isn't invulnerable.
Batman has every other advantage, being the better fighter, strategist, psychologist and prep expert.
How will Im even defeat Batman, he won't see him, neither with his eyes nor his sensors, he will fight Ghosts and get hit from multiple locations by weapons capable of doing damage. It will be a guerilla fight against an invisible opponent, who will play with his mind, emotions and exhaust him in more then one way. Tony is outclassed in a prep war against someone like Batman.
But well. If you are not familiar with both chars and just look at Tonys armor and Batmans belt, ignore everything else, most important the prep, then yeah, Tony will win. If you take prep and both chars and their portrayals into consideration, you will see that Batman wins, 8/10 if not more.

BTW Tony is IM, that is well know, Batmans secret identity is secret. He also has this advantage and can prep even better. This might even end in an slaughter not a contest, if Bats fights dirty, which he will.

While reading this it seemed more like you're the one placing the no limits fallacy on Batman, and his ability to be unable to be beaten by superior intelligence than his own. Tony has been making armor all of his adult life, that's his thing, not Batman's. Tony's armor will always be better than any armor Bruce can make in one weeks time. He only has one week, Tony has been developing armor's for nearly any and every contingency. Batman is the greatest sleuth, that's his thing. Once again with feeling this time, Batman only has one week to prep. he would be lucky if he could come up with batarang gauntlets in that period of time, and fashion them to use with his medieval suit of armor sitting in his hallway.

Originally posted by Silent Master
You're aware that Tony also has stealth tech, so how exactly is Batman going to find him in order to damage him?

So both would search forever, that's what you are saying?

Originally posted by Stoic
While reading this it seemed more like you're the one placing the no limits fallacy on Batman, and his ability to be unable to be beaten by superior intelligence than his own. Tony has been making armor all of his adult life, that's his thing, not Batman's. Tony's armor will always be better than any armor Bruce can make in one weeks time. He only has one week, Tony has been developing armor's for nearly any and every contingency. Batman is the greatest sleuth, that's his thing. Once again with feeling this time, Batman only has one week to prep. he would be lucky if he could come up with batarang gauntlets in that period of time, and fashion them to use with his medieval suit of armor sitting in his hallway.

I use the IM front way of arguing, to show how stupid it is.

Now you need to limit bruces resources so IM stands a chance? Well in a scenario where batman has to produce iron, batarangs and everything else while tony is allowed to use his facilities, billions and other resources, yeah then tony wins. Now you want a fair prep war, either got all their resources, money and technicians, then Tony stands a prayer of a chance against an superior intellect, not a limited technical intellect. Or you drop them on an island, both have the same resources, wood, stone, if they can get it iron, and prep for the other, where Batman shitstomps. See Tonys only way of winning is either Batman not prepping at all, or be limited while IM gets all he needs.

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Originally posted by Batman-Prime
So both would search forever, that's what you are saying?

I'm saying that stealth tech is nothing new to Tony, he's been building it for decades.

BTW, not allowing Bruce to use outside help isn't an attempt to limit Bruce's resources, it's following the rules of the forum...if you need I can repost where the Mod stated it.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Nobody has stated that a prepped Iron-man cannot be hurt, nice attempt at a strawman.

He said all of Marvel which is true because whenever Reed or Doom is brought up they can conquer every fictitious universe if they had one day of prep.

Originally posted by Based
He said all of Marvel which is true because whenever Reed or Doom is brought up they can conquer every fictitious universe if they had one day of prep.

What he said isn't true, because nobody in this thread has stated that a "prepped Iron-man cannot be hurt by anyone".

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
So both would search forever, that's what you are saying?

I use the IM front way of arguing, to show how stupid it is.

Now you need to limit bruces resources so IM stands a chance? Well in a scenario where batman has to produce iron, batarangs and everything else while tony is allowed to use his facilities, billions and other resources, yeah then tony wins. Now you want a fair prep war, either got all their resources, money and technicians, then Tony stands a prayer of a chance against an superior intellect, not a limited technical intellect. Or you drop them on an island, both have the same resources, wood, stone, if they can get it iron, and prep for the other, where Batman shitstomps. See Tonys only way of winning is either Batman not prepping at all, or be limited while IM gets all he needs.

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The smelting and cooling process alone would take a week. You have to think about these things before you go on a tangent about what Bruce's wealth will allow him to do. I'm not saying that he does not have the money or resources to create these things on his own. What I am contesting is that he would never have time to build something superior to Tony's tech in one weeks time. Why is it that no one gets this? If Bruce went this route he would be playing right into Tony's arena, where Tony would literally tell him welcome to my world or some other corny ass shit, while standing there grinning.

Tony is already ready for Bruce's gadgets. Bruce is the one that has to play catch up. However, even in a comic, Bruce would never be able to produce tech like Tony's in just one week. ONE WEEK... ONE WEEK... do you get it now? If the OP gave Bruce a year, I would be saying Batman wins a majority, but under these stipulations, anyone giving Bruce the win are simply underestimating Tony. Or trying to paint him in a poor light to keep their arguments from falling into the toilets on this one.