Originally posted by Galan007
2/2You not liking that it happened, doesn't change the fact that it still happened. 🙂
And penises
Yes, this is a simple case of me simply not liking something Galan.
As opposed to a blatant pis feat.
But I've asked you before if you could post anything to back it up, because for all my sexy-ness, I'm open minded. If you could have posted anything else to back it up, then maybe it would have just been me not liking it. But you failed. You utterly failed to back it up. And then you danced around the issue with words like "lowballing" "Butthurt" "stop arguing" and "Jizzload".
But apparently I'm just supposed to accept a highballed feat with no problem in an issue where he again, failed to KO a blind Wonder Woman. You can spout lowballing all you want, but you can't deny how questionable that is.
Again, I've apparently low balled from the feats every Zoom fan uses in Zoom threads. Things like him hitting Superman level (blatant pis). Him hitting a billion times in a second (where he failed to cause any damage to Power Girl). The Hal, GL, Batman, Superman fight (where again, he failed to cause damage), and more. And whenever he got tagged during those fights. Hell, one of your favorite feats apparently is when he takes Kal-L's punch. Where he gets hit by a slower, weaker being than Prime.
Because low balling is apparently using the full story. But I forgot you're actually only supposed to take the highs out of those feats and ignore the details.
Zoom can hit a billion times in a second... a billion Superman level punches though!
This is the logic we're supposed to employ as opposed to actually looking at the issues he accomplished these in. It's tiring, and I've seen it time and time again. No one apparently has an issue with it, but it's so crazily dumb it's ridiculous. Where is the line drawn? When is the time that pointing out context isn't seen as lowballing? Why can't I point out that when he did those feats, he did no damage with them? Why is that lowballing?
And again, pointing out his complete and utter lack of stopping power is lowballing. Hilarious
There's also the part where you admit you're lowballing Prime. So there's a mighty difference right there.
And Connor hits way harder than Zoom. Fancy that.
They do not always slap Prime around. Hell, I posted him seemingly to one shot two of them while casually brushing them off in the post right under mine. It took pretty much every Flash in existence to trap Prime in the Speedforce... which he got out. And it took Bart being faster than he's ever gone before.
And with the full Speedforce the Flashes are pretty much just as fast as Zoom. Whereas Bart had the full Speedforce when he cheapshotted Prime at the end of IC and Prime easily got away from him, with only a little bit of blood. Which means he should be able to move.
The mindset however is another issue, but all that means is that he wouldn't stay still and take Zoom's pitter patter punches.
I've never denied Zoom's speed. In fact, I outright stated he would blitz the hell out of Prime initially. However, he's also been tagged a lot by Flash, he's also been tagged a lot by heroes. He can be faster than anyone, but he's never been fast enough to not actually get hit. Which is a major flaw.
I've already explained all of those, and you've failed to do nothing but just say I'm using low feats. He's fast, I never denied that. But his punches are weak, and he gets tagged a lot in comics. That's not lowballing, that's forming an average out of comics.
But anyway, he also took one shot from Diana and got back in the fight. Once he really really got hit, he was done. Him taking one punch from Superman doesn't override his WW fight. As much as you think one single feat beats all other feats. It just doesn't work that way.
Again with the "lowballing". Broken record.
Also, I uh... told you exactly how Prime would win right below that post. Prime will eventually tag him while Zoom ineffectually hits him for a while.
But it's funny again that you start this up, when I'm the one in the first place who asked how Zoom will win. I'm the one who asked when the hell Zoom has ever even finish a durable opponent... a question that you just danced around repeatedly in your ballet shoes and skirt and never once tried to answer it.
So, you're saying all the scans you posted (that unintelligibly had Zoom getting tagged a lot) don't actually matter and Zoom will do better guaranteed? What's the point of trying to find the best Zoom feats you can when you ignore them the second they're questioned?
Oh Zoom got tagged? Doesn't count here, he's faster!
And apparently we're under the assumption that Zoom wasn't actually going that fast when he was put up against Superman, Wonder Woman, and the Batman? When he blitzed Superman he wasn't actually trying to go that fast? When he didn't want to be caught and shook out of WW's lasso/Hal's chain, he wasn't actually going that fast? I already got out of it that you think he was severely holding back his Superman level punches, but this is just delicious.
It's basically:
"Look how fast Zoom is going!!!"
*point out him getting caught*
"Well... he wasn't going that fast. In the forum you see, he'll be way faster"
Has I not pointed out him getting tagged, I wonder if you would have went into the "Prime will be these guys compared to Zoom" approach. Likely, likely.
I wonder how many times Zoom has to be tagged in the scans you post for you to start considering that maybe he isn't untouchable. Every comic he appears in?
Basically, he appears really fast when he's actually fighting heroes, and someone eventually touches him because he can't put them away super quick. The really fast part? Awesome. The getting touched part? Lowballing PIS.
Yeah, he can. And he's tagged the Flashes twice out of what, 4 fights? The one where he fought full Bart was two punches long and Prime didn't even try to retaliate, and the other one where he fought "The Speedforce itself is amped" Bart, Bart never came anyway close to him. So there's your reason.
Tell me again why Zoom has never put down a durable opponent? 🙂
Than anyone "you posted" tagging Zoom? Yes. Faster than Kal-L, a Blind Wonder Woman, Wonder Woman's lasso, Hal, etc. Yes.
If you think you can apply it to your current posts? Then no. Prime isn't faster than the Flashes, but he's fast enough to tag them, as evidenced by the times he uh... tagged them.
Funny thing about most of the scans you posted is that most of the times the Flashes aren't actually fighting him.
The Bart feat is good.
Wally and Jay weren't even hitting him. They were trying to absorb his kinetic energy, and were just spinning around him. And then he grabbed Jay and tripped Wally all while they were dumbfounded that it didn't work. He may be faster than them, but that set almost proves nothing except his kinetic energy can't be sapped.
The blocking feat is good. Although that set once against shows that his stopping power isn't very good. And it would be a terrible idea to use against Prime. Blocking punches that is.
Outside the first part, Flash wasn't even trying to fight Zoom. And Zoom was beating on Flash and failed to put him down. Again shows his lack of stopping power.
He hit Flash while Flash was turning around and then grabbed him from behind. Quick, but he used the element of surprise.
"Nearly stopped"
Superman was a statue because he was just flying around doing Superman stuff. Are we under the impression that Superman's superspeed perceptions would have him still being a statue if he knew there was actually danger going on? We've actually seen Superman be a statue to Flash until he knows bad shit is actually happening, and then, while still being slower, he is somewhat on par.
It's a different story when Superman is actually in a fight, compared to Superman sitting there masturbating.
Always operates... those are humans. Just because he operates that way to humans, that doesn't mean he always operates that way to anyone. Especially considering he was speaking to Linda.
Already answered the Rogues part.
Do you not know how to read? Or are you just purposefully misinterpreting what I said in an attempt to make me look dumb?
In the same post you quoted I stated Prime will get hit a lot. I'm not saying he simply walks up to Zoom and hits him once. I'm saying Zoom will ineffectually wail on Prime for a while, and eventually eat a hit that puts him down. It might take a while, but based on everything you've shown me thus far, it seems likely. Zoom's a lot faster than Prime, but he's not untouchable to even people slower than Prime.
Zoom doesn't hit hard enough to stop him, as evidenced by your complete inability to show him stopping anyone with any sort of decent durability. As evidenced by you thinking I'm lowballing his speed, and attempting to scan blitz me, yet you can't back up his stopping power in the least.
And if Zoom doesn't hit hard enough to stop him, that leaves a long fight on his hands. Logic dictates that the longer it goes on, the sloppier Zoom gets. Logic dictates that Zoom's been hit before by slower people, and Prime can hit Flashes in a full blitz. And logic dictates Zoom's durability isn't enough to withstand a full shot by Prime and stay awake.
Put all that together, and eventually Prime should win.
