Zoom Vs Superboy Prime

Started by Galan0077 pages

Originally posted by abhilegend
There you go again. Superman wasn't said to be sunamped anywhere, in fact Diana was waving kryptonite in his face when he punched her. When he actually gets sunamped people notice it, wonder woman never once noticed he was sun amped in that fight. He also knocked her out which Zoom failed to do.
Does this not constitute a sunamp in your world?:

How about this?:

Are you incapable of adding 2+2 by yourself?

Originally posted by Galan007
Does this not constitute a sunamp in your world?:
That wasn't a sun amp in any sense of the world. They were not on top of the sun as Rucka clarified that they were near venus in an interview and even discarding that diana was waving kryptonite at his face. Diana never noticed any difference between superman before he went to the sun and after.

How about this?:
That was a sunamp. Before that Darkseid was backhanding him away and shit.

Are you incapable of adding 2+2 by yourself?
I don't think you should go to petty insults for something like this.

Originally posted by abhilegend
That wasn't a sun amp in any sense of the world. They were not on top of the sun as Rucka clarified that they were near venus in an interview and even discarding that diana was waving kryptonite at his face. Diana never noticed any difference between superman before he went to the sun and after.
The hell? If Superman moves THAT close to the sun, he is unarguably being amped beyond his normal levels. It doesn't need to be explicitly stated for us to still know how his power works. srsly

Want me to get a mod ruling on the scene?

Originally posted by abhilegend
I don't think you should go to petty insults for something like this.
Sorry, but sometimes you just make no sense at all, and seem to argue just to argue.

Originally posted by Galan007
The hell? If Superman moves THAT close to the sun, he is unarguably being amped beyond his normal levels. It doesn't need to be explicitly stated for us to still know how his power works. srsly
Not if kryptonite is being waved at his face. Synthetic kryptonite has nearly killed an actual sunamped superman in moments.

Want me to get a mod ruling on the scene?
What's up with this mod ruling stuff?

Sorry, but sometimes you just make no sense at all, and seem to argue just to argue.
Heh, could be said about you too at this point.

Originally posted by Galan007
Does this not constitute a sunamp in your world?:

How about this?:

Are you incapable of adding 2+2 by yourself?

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Don't see how anyone can argue against this.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Not if kryptonite is being waved at his face. Synthetic kryptonite has nearly killed an actual sunamped superman in moments.
Dianna was punched back to earth before she ever got a chance to use the k-nite offensively, so that is an entirely moot point.

Originally posted by abhilegend
What's up with this mod ruling stuff?
It's easier than arguing with a block wall.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Heh, could be said about you too at this point.
Right, because I didn't post scans that prove you wrong or anything...

Originally posted by carver9
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Don't see how anyone can argue against this.

Not even quanchi is trying to argue it, so that should tell you something right there.

Originally posted by Galan007

It's easier than arguing with a block wall.

@Galen..

And this is the reason why you are having a hard time.

Originally posted by Galan007
Dianna was punched back to earth before she ever got a chance to use the k-nite offensively, so that is an entirely moot point.
LOLWUT? She was almost shoving it in his face at that point. You are talking like it has to touch superman or something.

It's easier than arguing with a block wall.
Which you're being right now.

Right, because I didn't post scans that prove you wrong or anything...
You posted scans which proved opposite of what you say. Look what happened to an actual sunamped superman by synthetic kryptonite.

He had to be helped by his robots within moments of exposure. That's the only interaction between a sunamped superman and kryptonite.

Not to mention there was no difference in superman noted by diana. You're just being obtuse now.

Originally posted by Galan007
Not even quanchi is trying to argue it, so that should tell you something right there.

Agreeing with carver doesn't helps your case here.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Agreeing with carver doesn't helps your case here.
He proved his case with a scan. You tried citing another writers work with synthetic k-nite aka a different variable altogether. He was amped.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He proved his case with a scan. You tried citing another writers work with synthetic k-nite aka a different variable altogether. He was amped.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
He proved his case with a scan. You tried citing another writers work with synthetic k-nite aka a different variable altogether. He was amped.
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Aside from that, the scans abhi posted are from The Man of Tomorrow #13, released in 1999. Wonder Woman #219(the issue where sunamped Supes and Dianna fought) was released in 2005. This is important because in 2004(just one year before he battled Dianna), *standard* Superman(ie. not sunamped) was able to WEAR a f*cking k-nite ring, and use it to own Kara in the fire-pits of Apokolips, without "nearly dying":

(Superman/Batman #12.)

And ironically enough, in one of the scans abhi posted Superman outright TELLS US that being within close vicinity to the sun earlier in the issue had still boosted his resistance to k-nite, even when he was back on earth fighting the heroes:

"If I hadn't spent so much time recently near the sun, I'd be dead! My friends... Would have killed me!"

Yet Dianna pulling out a piece of k-nite...but never getting a chance to do anything with it...when they were both RIGHT BY the sun...supposedly depowered Superman in any way/shape/form? I suppose that bit of logic is all fine and dandy, IF you're comfortable ignoring Superman's character history as a whole. /shrug

This thread is full of win!

Originally posted by abhilegend
Not to mention there was no difference in superman noted by diana. You're just being obtuse now.
I'm being obtuse, eh?

Answer this question with a "yes" or "no" only:
Does moving close to the sun increase Superman's powers?

Originally posted by Galan007
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Aside from that, the scans abhi posted are from The Man of Tomorrow #13, released in 1999. Wonder Woman #219(the issue where sunamped Supes and Dianna fought) was released in 2005. This is important because in 2004(just one year before he battled Dianna), *standard* Superman(ie. not sunamped) was able to WEAR a f*cking k-nite ring, and use it to own Kara in the fire-pits of Apokolips, without "nearly dying":

(Superman/Batman #12.)

And ironically enough, in one of the scans abhi posted Superman outright TELLS US that being within close vicinity to the sun earlier in the issue had still boosted his resistance to k-nite, even when he was back on earth fighting the heroes:

"If I hadn't spent so much time recently near the sun, I'd be dead! My friends... Would have killed me!"

Yet Dianna pulling out a piece of k-nite...but never getting a chance to do anything with it...when they were both RIGHT BY the sun...supposedly depowered Superman in any way/shape/form? I suppose that bit of logic is all fine and dandy, IF you're comfortable ignoring Superman's character history as a whole. /shrug


Meh, that's Jeph Loeb's superman who can shrug off his entire blood turned to kryptonite and a kryptonite sword through his heart but died from a few kryptonite bullets. Using that kind of writing to prove anything is failworthy.

Not near the sun, on the surface of the sun.

Also if a sunamped superman was brought to his knees by synthetic kryptonite, a normal superman who was exposed to it wouldn't have got much of an amp, did he?

Originally posted by Galan007
I'm being obtuse, eh?

Answer this question with a "yes" or "no" only:
Does moving close to the sun increase Superman's powers?


Of course it does. I've a question for you, what does kryptonite do to superman? You are doing the same thing for superman here as you did for zoom, for all your speculation you can't produce any scan which says superman was amped there. Just like you can't produce any scan showing Zoom beating a single top tier. I can produce all the scans of superman getting an amp by going near sun, it has always spelled out for us. I wonder why it isn't stated here?

Jesus christ. facepalm

I went ahead and asked for a mod ruling, because frankly, you seem incapable of grasping even the most simplistic of concepts, and are arguing just to argue. I'm just wasting my time at this point.

You may have the last word now.

Hahaha, I'm sure you did this with bran too. I respect you too much to go to that route though. Just accept that everybody is wrong sometimes.

Originally posted by Galan007
Jesus christ. facepalm

I went ahead and asked for a mod ruling, because frankly, you seem incapable of grasping even the most simplistic of concepts, and are arguing just to argue. I'm just wasting my time at this point.

You may have the last word now.

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Good posts by the way Galan.