Hero of Tython vs NJO Luke Skywalker

Originally posted by Petrus
Fisto, Tinn and Kolar are actually good swodrsmen, contrary to popular belief. Satele is good, but she won't beat those three together.

Originally posted by Petrus
In fact, I doubt anyone other than Sidious and Force-users on his level would be able to blitz them.

Originally posted by Petrus
Malgus is a powerhouse, but he's not on Sidious' level and he won't be cruising through those three. They'd give him a fight, at least.

Which Jedi powerhouse are you refering to? Kao?

And no! That Jedi collapsed two buildings around the position of Malgus with the aim to crush him beneath the rubble.

Petrus, you're kind of moving the goalposts here. If by "blitz" you mean kill the Jedi as they do nothing, then it's doubtful this would be replicated outside of the movies. In a hypothetical versus match no one would ever argue "X wins because Y just sits there". Sidious' blitz was slower than me chucking a paper airplane across the room, so it's really being taken out of context. The Jedi, if they had chosen to move, were clusterd together. Only Mace was smart enough or coherent enough to back up.

Malgus is a ridiculous powerhouse and has good showings to his name per the respect thread. The trio, one of which is on par with AotC Obi-Wan, would not put up much of a fight.

I don't mean blitz as in the movies, I know that'd be impossible to replicate as it was complete and utter stupidity and it made those three look like a pile of shit when they weren't really.

All I'm saying is Malgus would not be able to defeat those three as easily as Sidious. Blitz or not. Malgus would win, I agree. But they would at least give him something. It wouldn't be pure ownage. Maybe not much of a fight, but a fight at least. These aren't pushovers. If you put them and Malgus with, say, three meters of separation and the battle takes place in an open area rather than closed-quarters with barely enough space to move and them all squashed together as if they were all in line for Sidious' saber to cut through them, it would make a difference.

^^^

Well, this is fine assessment.

lol

Wut?

Tears are streaming down my chin as I am reading these posts.

Of sadness? Or laughter? What's your take on this?

Both combined.

Don't mind Intrepid. He gets overcome by fits of depraved laughter whenever he's faced with logic and reason.

Link him to FOX and he'll settle down.

whats that

Intrepid is moved by our bias and passion.

Also, Petrus, the key thing is wide open space. If Sidious had fought four Jedi masters without the benefit of their obtuse defense and lack of mobility, it would have also been a fight and while he would have won, it would not be as quick. Rest assured, if Malgus encountered those guys in the same situation, assuming the desk didn't fly over and pin them against the wall or lightning ripple forth, he'd be in their faces, carving them up too.

It wouldn't have been as quick only because it would take him longer to kill them when they're all spread out. He's still so much faster than them that they explicitly cannot compete with him.

You're probably right about him carving them up in closed-quarters. That's why I said that blitz or no blitz, in an open area with space that allows mobility, even though obviously Sidious wouldn't kill them in 1.2 seconds, Malgus would struggle more than Sidious would've. Maybe struggle isn't the right word, as I agree he would defeat them, but you get the jist. All I'm saying is Malgus wouldn't kill those three as easily as Palps would've had the setting been an open area.

It's kind of irrelevant. Ha

This shit went ham.

This raises the question, how long till this thread becomes relevant agai because the Outlander potentially beating Arcann is gonna bring him closer to beating Valkorion eventually.

When he does finally beat Valkorion legitimately, this thread will become relevant again, at least, I think so.

When he finally beats Valkorion... he still dies to Luke.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
50/50 (I personally rank HoT on par with FOTJ Luke)

HoT had Jedi Master level abilities when he just a padawan. One can only imagine how powerful he would have been at his prime.

Orgus Din had Count Dooku level Force abilities but got punked by Bengel Morr, who in turn got punked by HoT. And these events happened much earlier in HoT's story arc.

Also, Luke's ABH manipulation feat (while extremely impressive) isn't valid for his combat prowess because that is a feat of full concentration without emphasis upon complex matters such as combat. It just shows that how deep Luke was attuned with the Force due to his extraordinary Midichlorian count.

Originally posted by MythLord
When he finally beats Valkorion... he still dies to Luke.

Pretty much.

Yep.

And also, HoTlander trashing Arcann doesn't mean he's close to Valk. Valk shits on Arcann any given day with no difficulty whatsoever.