Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Vitiate's best combat feats are dominating their minds. He was unable to do so in the final fight.
Vitiate's best combat feats are his "council purging" actions. Yes, he once exterminated an entire council by himself.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
He is then no saber feats or force feats other then blasting Revan with lightning.
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Vitiate is so powerful and well-versed in the ways of the Force that he doesn't needs a lightsaber to defeat or punk potential adversaries. He have felled expert swordsmen without difficulty.
As far as Force feats are concerned:-
- At the age of 10, Vitiate punked the most powerful Sith Lord of his homeworld by severing his connection with the Force (a dark variant of Sever Force talent) and destroying his mind with his telepathic abilities.
- Vitiate acquired absolute mastery of telepathic abilities; he could instill fear, mentally dominate, produce illusions/apparitions, possess and even destroy the minds of his targets. He went as far as to create "alternate dark personas" of thousands of other Force-users, triggering them from time to time to serve him (Children).
- Vitiate acquired absolute mastery of Force Drain talent; he could consume life-forces of other beings from even light-year distances. He siphoned energies of countless individuals to fuel his power.
- Vitiate acquired absolute mastery of unleashing (offensive) energies in purest forms of the dark side; he unleashed an FLS of this caliber on Revan (This FLS would have eaten Revan alive, if T3-M4 had not stopped Vitiate on time). He could also unleash Force blasts of purest dark side energies with bare hands.
- Vitiate acquired absolute mastery of telekinetic applications; he could perform telekinetic actions without gestures (nearly atomized T3-M4; prevented Scourge from striking Revan with his lightsaber; collapsed structures). Furthermore, he could conjure up Force waves, break bones, shatter organs and even atomize biota with his telekinetic abilities.
- Vitiate once destroyed an entire Dark Council with a mysterious application; this application swiftly killed/incapacitated all Dark Council members simultaneously.
- Vitiate acquired highest degree of immortality; could shift his essence from body to body (Essence Transfer) and permanently prolonged the existence of his original body, preventing its decay and destruction (Midichlorian manipulation). Vitiate was close to acquiring omnipotence when he was stopped.
I am sure that Vitiate acquired lot of other talents; he even altered the atmosphere and environment of Dromund Kaas on planetary scale.
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Kindly arrange an appointment with a doctor to find out if you have a functioning brain.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Beating a weakened Vitiate without his mindcontrol and other sorcery powers has not impressed me enough to even put the Hero above Caedus.
You need to realize that Vitiate was incredibly powerful and dangerous even in his weakened condition. And HoT was the only Jedi in the galaxy who stood a chance against him. This duel have been described as of "apocalyptic" proportions.
In addition, this duel took place in a region where Jedi powers would typically flop (Dark Temple) but HoT had acquired special talents to cope with powerful dark side nexuses, his powers would not diminish in such places. Even Luke does not have this capability.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Well the only two powerful Jedi who went up against him was Revan and the Hero, don't act like thousands did.
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You forgot Tol Braga, Warren Sedoru and Leeha Narezz (All of whom are counted among the most powerful Jedi of the Order).
Vitiate have killed/punked so many Jedi that even the mighty Satele Shan was reluctant to confront him.
Furthermore, Vitiate have killed/punked many Sith as well (including Dark Council members).
Vitiate had overshadowed millions of Force-users, genius.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Lumiya beat Luke prior to Dark Empire. 😆 Lets not forget then LOTF Luke beat Lumiya so bad their final fight it was embarrassing.
Lumiya was no match for Luke even during DE era. However, her initial victory reveals that how effective element of surprise can be in combat situations; she outdueled Luke with her lightwhip based martial skills which was an alien experience for Luke. Later on, Luke further improved his own dueling prowess and then punked her in a rematch.
Lesson gained from this event is that Luke doesn't have an automatic counter to all kinds of combat related talents and Force abilities. He learns from experience/exposure just like everybody else and is not unstoppable.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
So this puts him Luke level? 😆 Luke has speed blitz Vong warriors and Sith apprentices at ease.
Good! HoT and Luke are even in this case.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Luke has also out dueled:-Palpatine (Second Encounter). With the aid of Leia, Luke outdueled Palpatine and disarmed him...something even Yoda couldn't do.
Yes, one of Luke's finest moments.
However, it is not even clear at that moment that what level of skill and power would be required to push HoT to his limits in martial aspects of combat since a Sith Lord with over a thousand (Jedi and Sith) kills under his belt was not able to.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
-Lumiya. Basically annihlated Lumiya on their second encounter, dispite Lumiya still using a lightwhip, a very unfamilar weapon to Luke. Lumiya was personally trained by Vader and the master of Cadeus...not someone to mess with."I don't think the three of us are a match for Lumiya..."
-Zekk, to Jaina Solo and Jagged Fel
Lumiya was/is a talented duelist but nothing to boast about.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66 -Supreme Overlord Shimrra Jamaan, who was stated to be the most powerful Yuuzang Vong warrior.
Great!
So exactly how powerful is this overlord?
HoT have held his own against/defeated avatars of some extremely powerful entities (most notably an ancient Rakatan entity and Sel Makor).
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
-Viun Gaalan, this is impressive due to how easily Luke beat him.
Viun accolade: "Galant struck Luke, high, low, a series of subtle and sophisticated blows that would have bewildered any lesser duelist. He was good; Luke gave him that. He might have been a match for an expert sword master such as Kyp or Kyle Katarn...He parried each of Gaalan's blows, and his ripostes-his blade skittering off Gaalan's and thrusting now at the Sith Lords's face, now at shoulder or knee or torso-came increasingly close to touching flesh. Luke smiled at the man."
HoT have suddued some "expert" swordsmen as well; expert swordsmen with impressive feats/accomplishments to be more precise and not just hype.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
...and I'm not even mentioning his fights with Caedus, Vader, or Abeloth...
Abeloth part have been covered already. HoT's performances against Sel Makor might be comparable.
HoT have also defeated following:
- Bengel Morr (survivor of Sacking of Coruscant event; defeated a powerful and battle-hardened Jedi Master, Orgus Din; became a threat to the entire Jedi Order on Tython)
- Darth Angral (boss of Darth Malgus; killed Orgus Din)
- Tol Braga (One of the most powerful Jedi of the Order; fought a Dark Council member for 3 days and redeemed him (unparalleled feat in its own right))
- Lord Fulminiss (a legendary Sith Sorcerer who have history of destroying entire cities with preparation)
- Imperial Guard (an entire contingent to be accurate (a lone Imperial Guard individual is a match for a Jedi); also cut down Guardsman Lessicar who also have multiple Jedi and Sith kills under his belt)
The entire list of notable victories of HoT is very big. On Aldeeran, HoT fought a Sith Lord who had programmed a superweapon of sorts to aid him. This weapon could kill any living being with a single blow. Yet, HoT not just cut down this Sith Lord but also evaded the firepower of the weapon and eventually disabled it.