angrir vs classic diana w/weapons

Originally posted by Q99
[B]He has malformed speech bubbles, what did you think that represents? That's traditionally how writers portray weak or hindered speech.

Also note how he stopped to hold his throat before he was released from Lord's telepathy, so it's not that.

Also note how that is a lot of blood to be coming from someone's neck even when there was only a single panel before he applied pressure. That means it's a deep wound (well, and the cut itself shows it).

And we're supposed to believe she didn't have more of an advantage than the time she was... holding her head a little, looked totally conscious, and had no visible wounds?

It's all just double-standards.

Wonder Woman clearly has no problem causing major injury to Superman- in terms of capacity to dish damage.

Also, she's clearly able to receive a lot of damage from someone of that level in turn and keep fighting, as encounters with no-holds-back Superman, Doomsday, and others have shown.

All this "it'd be one-sided/he's way strongest," simply isn't backed up, no matter how much you beg otherwise.

That's the difference between a rivalry and an inferior trying to fight a superior.

"Who the **** is begging? Wonder Woman confessed two times that she can't beat superman. That's not rivalry. Superman/Captain Marvel is a rivalry, Superman/Orion is a rivalry. Superman/WW is a oneside beatdown where she survives by the skin of her teeth. Look how much she is a rival to superman, he's slightly amped and who is called to oppose him? Orion who takes on him while Diana alongside J'onn, supergirl, barda and Superboy could barely restrain him."

I have to agree here, there is no rivalry. Wonder Woman is not a high herald. A few good moments against heralds changes nothing. Superman has overwhelmingly looked superior to her.

^although saying that, Abhi agreed that with her gear, she has no problem having the capacity to dish out major damage to Superman.

Do you think Angrir is capable of tanking her gear?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
^although saying that, Abhi agreed that with her gear, she has no problem having the capacity to dish out major damage to Superman.

Do you think Angrir is capable of tanking her gear?

More than she is able to tank his gear, yes. A blow by his hammer would likely be fatal.

I personally don't see what is so impressive about a lesser opponents beating a superior appointment with the aid of a deadly weapon. How would David have done against Goliath without his sling?

What does it matter?

David walked away from that fight; Goliath was dead.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
More than she is able to tank his gear, yes. A blow by his hammer would likely be fatal.

I personally don't see what is so impressive about a lesser opponents beating a superior appointment with the aid of a deadly weapon. How would David have done against Goliath without his sling?

Why would a blow to her be fatal? Do you know Diana's feats. She has survived a hit from Superman that knocked her from the Sun to Earth in moments. This hit is far harder than anything Angrir has ever shown.

Also Diana won't get touched if he just stabs him in the heart, decapitates him, etc. Diana is vastly faster with much greater skill and can kill Angrir without even being touched. This fight is spite.

Originally posted by leonidas
believe it or not i do get where you're coming from with most of this. the thing that surprises me the most is how much differently we see the relative strength levels here. i'd def put ww in the same tier as thor. i'd give thor a slight edge, but that would be it, and it wouldn't be enough edge to really amount to much even in straight h2h. she def seems close to hercules (as seen in direct battle with him and with CM), or close enough for the difference to be negligible. at hh levels of strength, i think most differences are pretty minor.

it's possible the wounds would heal, but yeah, we'll just differ in our opinions on whether she could inflict enough damage through a killing strike to either finish him, or incapacitate him enough to ALLOW a finishing blow. i'd shied away from giving a number out of 10 before i hashed this out with someone a little more, but, while i'll still take diana more times than not, i think you raised some fair points. still no real counter to speed and skill imo, and intent to kill. i never even brought up the lasso, which would also be a real help to her in this. i think i'd take ww about 6/10 after some reflecting. you're probably thinking 9/10 to ben, maybe 10/10, but.....we can't always agree on everything. 🙂

Not too long ago, there was a thread comparison between Wonder Woman and Thor, and she just doesn't have the feats to compare to some of his higher end stuff. Thor's a lot closer to Superman/Hulk then Diana is.

Fair enough. I don't think it'd be that lopsided. The lasso won't really help her as the Worthy have a direct link to the Serpent or something, giving anyone who tries to enter their minds a nasty backlash. It was tried a few times against them, not much luck.

The lasso can simply be used to tie him up or immobilize him.
I think this fight is spite since I don't see how Ben counters his head being cut off or him being stabbed in the heart or something

Originally posted by h1a8
I think this fight is spite since I don't see how Ben counters his head being cut off or him being stabbed in the heart or something

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
He counters the first with his durability being a billion times greater than her and her sword, and the second with his hf being a trillion times greater than hers.

Originally posted by h1a8
He has the worst durability of any herald. Mjolnir blew right through him and it wasn't sharp. Angrir had no hf when it comes to getting stabbed in the heart. He was going to die when Mjolnir blew through his chest.
Lol at you attempting to joke.

You are in a class by yourself when it comes to bias. Obviously you have no clue how silly you sound. Instead of giving credit to the damage done by a charged Mjolnir, in your mind it worked only because Angir was the least durable herald of all time. On top of that you a determined to create a version of WW that does not exist. There is no help for you.

LOL "Mjolnir blew right through him and it wasn't sharp" terrible terrible terrible

Originally posted by iceman24567
LOL "Mjolnir blew right through him and it wasn't sharp" terrible terrible terrible

😆

That was gem!

Originally posted by h1a8
He has the worst durability of any herald. Mjolnir blew right through him and it wasn't sharp. Angrir had no hf when it comes to getting stabbed in the heart. He was going to die when Mjolnir blew through his chest.
Lol at you attempting to joke.

Mjolnir is far and away more powerful and durable then Wonder Woman's sword.

Why do people keep bringing up the hammer as if the sword is even remotely comparable?

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
You are in a class by yourself when it comes to bias. Obviously you have no clue how silly you sound. Instead of giving credit to the damage done by a charged Mjolnir, in your mind it worked only because Angir was the least durable herald of all time. On top of that you a determined to create a version of WW that does not exist. There is no help for you.

When Diana fights with a sword then she goes for lethal force.
Otherwise why use a sword?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Mjolnir is far and away more powerful and durable then Wonder Woman's sword.

Why do people keep bringing up the hammer as if the sword is even remotely comparable?

WW can easily slice Angrir's head off. She can easily stab him in the heart.
This fight is spite.

Originally posted by h1a8
Durability has nothing to do with penetration if both objects are harder than Angrir's skin.

WW can easily slice Angrir's head off. She can easily stab him in the heart.
This fight is spite.

Forgot why I didn't bother replying to you. Thanks for the reminder old friend.

Originally posted by h1a8
We go by Thor's history to establish evidence. Thor has struck many many heralds with Mjolnir and never has it blew through any one of them. Thus if it blows through a new character then it is 100% sound to assume the new character has less durability than a high Herald. I say Angrir had the durability of Thing himself or a little more.

When Diana fights with a sword then she goes for lethal force.
Otherwise why use a sword?

Thor pulled out all stops because of the power of the two foes he was facing. Either would have taken a serious effort to defeat, but this was two at the same time. Dire situation, Thor takes it to another level and this is nothing new. We are talking about someone who can pose a challenge to uber menaces like Galactus, Mangog and Surtur.

What I funny is how you are oh so quick to credit Superman for stepping up his game in certain situations but discount, deny and minimize whenever Thor does the same.

Stop quoting h1

Some people have the luxury of having him on ignore.

^seriously, right? gotta be a way to block people from seeing quotes from people on ignore. damnation pr, bada, make it happen! we're doing our parts here but we're only human, man!!