Respect Emperor Palpatine

Why does it matter?

You say it was written in-universe?

By whom?

The preface mentions it is written in-universe but the author is not mentioned.

Its a team of BioWare writers ^ (Mentioned in back cover flap)

So it wasn't actually written in universe then.

Also it blatantly wasn't, since it says Jadus and Thanaton are both on the Council, despite them serving on there at mutually-exclusive points.

Originally posted by Nephthys
So it wasn't actually written in universe then.

Also it blatantly wasn't, since it says Jadus and Thanaton are both on the Council, despite them serving on there at mutually-exclusive points.

Uh, yes it is.

"Written entirely in-universe". That the name of the author is not mentioned does not contradict this in anyway.

Also not sure what your point of there being contradictions is...

NEC is written from fallible in-universe POV too.

And yes, cats are adorable.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
The Ones are not apart of the TOR era, and therefore are not included in the listings...

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
What? lol

Check this book: http://www.amazon.com/Essential-Readers-Companion-Star-Wars/dp/0345511190

And enjoy the butthurt you will feel afterwards.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
NEC is written from fallible in-universe POV too.

I wouldn't be surprised. Alot of the guides are written in-universe to make them more interesting. In all honesty though, Sidious merely being called "the most powerful Sith ever" or some variation of that isn't sufficient proof that he is IMO.

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Silver needs to update the force storm section with the SW: Comics companion, because it states that Palpatine's force storm threatened to consume ALL of space. Unmatched power right there.

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Originally posted by ares834
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Good for him.

Too bad with those million Sith he couldn't wipe out the Jedi or conquer more than half the known Galaxy.

As soon as he began to interfere in galactic affairs, outcome was devastating wars and unprecedented death and destruction:

1. Mandalorian Wars
2. Jedi Civil War
3. Sith Triumvirate

In these wars, the Jedi Order got eliminated and Republic weakened to such a level that it could be wiped out as well. However, Revan prevented Vitiate from capitalizing on these vulnerabilities.

Still, Vitiate made a comeback with Great Galactic War and came very close to eradicating both the Jedi Order and The Republic once again but Revan once again managed to prevent him from capitalizing on these developments. This led to disillusionment of Darth Malgus and the potential seeds of betrayal were sown.

Vitiate then arranged assassination of Revan and orchestrated his (super) ritual to consume the entire galaxy but this plan was thwarted, thanks to betrayal of Scourge.

Originally posted by ares834
I wouldn't be surprised. Alot of the guides are written in-universe to make them more interesting. In all honesty though, Sidious merely being called "the most powerful Sith ever" or some variation of that isn't sufficient proof that he is IMO.

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
Silver needs to update the force storm section with the SW: Comics companion, because it states that Palpatine's force storm threatened to consume ALL of space. Unmatched power right there.

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Originally posted by ares834
I wouldn't be surprised. Alot of the guides are written in-universe to make them more interesting. In all honesty though, Sidious merely being called "the most powerful Sith ever" or some variation of that isn't sufficient proof that he is IMO.

Ed Greenwood said that the top ten swordsmen of DnD, including Drizzt and Artemis, are so close in terms of skill as to be on the same plane, yet all are masters of their craft, and their respective ranking can shift very easily. Drizzt is fifth and Artemis is ninth, yet even this is dynamic and Artemis is not on a lower tier by comparison by Ed's own admission.

That is a fairer representation of power than any absolute statement, but you're right the ambiguity exists even in SW. In another example, the Elder Scrolls is chock full of ambiguity and the result is absolute truth does not exist.A power chart in TES is completely impossible because all lore is in-universe fallible.

Check this book: http://www.amazon.com/Essential-Rea...s/dp/0345511190

And enjoy the butthurt you will feel afterwards.

Don't really understand the point...Dark Empire came after The Old Republic in Star Wars timeline, therefore it out rules it...

I understand your logic but disagree...your saying TOR outrules all of Palpatine quotes because its newer and up to date (on Earth), but Palpatine quotes came later in the actual Star Wars universe...get me?

No, no that's not how it works. DE sourcebook is years old. TOR content is new. This is why the THX remastered version of Empire Strikes Back does not retcon blu-ray Revenge of the Sith.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
No, no that's not how it works. DE sourcebook is years old. TOR content is new. This is why the THX remastered version of Empire Strikes Back does not retcon blu-ray Revenge of the Sith.

Interesting...

Yeah, logic usually is that way.

I like how you edited your post after. Well played.

Retcons only matter when there is explicit contradictions anyway.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Don't really understand the point...Dark Empire came after The Old Republic in Star Wars timeline, therefore it out rules it...

I understand your logic but disagree...your saying TOR outrules all of Palpatine quotes because its newer and up to date (on Earth), but Palpatine quotes came later in the actual Star Wars universe...get me?

Authors always make decisions on the basis of "information available to them," and even they are susceptible to bias/promotions of their favorites in the mythos. Some years back, authors had ample reasons to believe that Sidious is the most powerful Sith Lord and/or practitioner of the dark side because no content was challenging his relative position, so Sidious received hype accordingly.

However, Star Wars lore continuously expands and within recent years we have newcomers such as Abeloth, The Father, The Daughter, The Son, Vitiate and Dread Master Styrak - all whom are remarkably powerful Force-users with considerably hype going for them.

So it doesn't makes sense to rely on outdated information to unnecessarily wank your favorites.

It is better to regard all of the premium Force-users as contenders for the top spot or consider TIER based ranking. In this manner, you can not just respect canon in its entirety but also respect the beliefs of your fellow fans.

You can say that following are TIER 1 (in no specific order):

- Abeloth
- The Father
- Vitiate
- Palpatine (DE)
- Dread Master Styrak

and vice versa.