Originally posted by Nephthys
Woah, Styrak shouldn't be in that tier dude.
Also, Dread Masters have The Ones like Force abilities. They can resurrect the dead, shapeshift, telepathically dominate, unleash potent dark side powers and all kinds of shit.
"The Dread Masters possess incredible, unprecedented power over the dark side of the Force."
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
If Vitiate's in tier 1, so should the hero 😛
Not at all. Vitiate has force feats that put him up there with the greatest in the verse. The Hero does not. He has excellent saber feats for repelling Vitiate's lightning though. Just like how Mace managed to corner Sidious in spite of being weaker than he is.
Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
Legend the Ones are firmly above any other being in terms of force power in galactic history.Tier 0:
Father
Abeloth
Max Potential Anakin
Father is Balance, Abeloth is Chaos, and Anakin's potential achieved through Luke in FoTJ and the rest of the Skywalkers down through history represented Balance in Father's absence.
Originally posted by Stealth Moose
So Vitiate is the embodiment of the dark side and the dark side made Sidious it's instrument. Sounds legit. Vitiate went on to become the Dark Side itself and helped Plageuis and Sidious create imbalance./thread.
No, Sidious>Vitiate. ^.^ You can't just bash away hundreds of accolades claiming their outdated...especially when some were just released as recently as 2011. Don't get me wrong, Vitiate is up their in the Top 3 Sith, but Plagueis ("Plagueis was the most powerful Sith Lord who ever lived... -Plagueis Novel), and then Sidious (numerous accolades and feats) ahead of Vitiate. Vitiate's accolades apply to up to himself. If you disagree, explain to me why Malgus's death is not even yet recorded in the book. The encyclopedia ends with the conclusion of the Hero's quest, and does not go into other later eras.
Sidious>Plagueis>Vitiate>Ragnos.
And honestly, G-canon states Sidious as number one various times, while Vitiate's quotes only fall into C-canon. G-canon>C-canon bro.
Oh wow, you're right. Well while I'm on a hunt for a Lucas quote on Palpatine, here is some G-Canon quotes from Revenge of the Sith Novel:
And then there was Palpatine, of course: he was beyond power. He showed nothing of what might be within. Though seen with the eyes of the dark side itself, Palpatine was an event horizon. Beneath his entirely ordinary surface was absolute, perfect nothingness. Darkness beyond darkness.
A black hole of the Force.
-Revenge of the Sith
In that lightning-speared tornado of feet and fists and blades and bashing machines, his vision finally pierced the darkness that had clouded the Force.
-Revenge of the Sith
Dooku could not argue. Not only had the Dark Lord introduced Dooku to realms of power beyond his most spectacular fantasies, but Sidious was also a political manipulator so subtle that his abilities might be considered to dwarf even the power of the dark side itself. It was said that whenever the Force closes a hatch, it opens a viewport...and every viewport that had so much as cracked in this past thirteen standard years had found a Dark Lord of the Sith already at the rim, peering in, calculating how best to slip through.
-Revenge of the Sith
Also just as a side note, what is the level of canon for a Star Wars Insider?