Thor vs HP Doomsday (CIS off)

Started by Brockalizer11 pages

Originally posted by quanchi112
So let's ignore Thor stomping him prior to and after. Let's draw our conclusions for these scans alone and continue to make random claims. Thor beat Bill multiple times, Pluto and Ares, surfer and warlock, etc.

Beastly. Thor beats Doomsday.

FYI, that's the same scan I tried posting the other day in the OWAW Superman vs B&T Thor thread.

Originally posted by Brockalizer
With CIS off, here is exactly what I would do if I was Thor. Toss Mjolnir just right so that the strap at the base of the handle snags the bone protruding from Doomsdays' chest. While he's face down in the dirt, and unable to get back to his feet I'd God blast the shit out of him.

How would DD face down in the dirt? The lifting enchantment only works if someone is trying to lift it by hand.

Even so, DD could just remove the handle, or easily prevent Mjolnir from strapping to him.

Also I like to see the scan where it shows Thor Godblast without Mjolnir. Even so, HP DD tanked the OB, which was more powerful than the Godblast in that arc. Plus DD gains resistance on the fly and counter measures as well as healing instantly.

There is nothing Thor can do, even if DD just sits there and do nothing. Thor can't win.

Here is proof that Thor can't win this fight.

1. Thor can't really damage DD.
PROOF
Superman can't damage missiles using all of his might.

The OB at less than half of it's power (one beam vs. two and striking far away) instant vapored missiles that Superman is shown to not be able to damage using all of his might.

DD tanks a full power OB (not at less than half power as those missiles)

Proof that OB is more powerful from point blank range

A much weaker DD no selling JL energy beams

2. DD adapts to the staying in the air tactic and also shows intelligence

3. DD Heals instantly from damage.

4. DD adapts resistance (it is mentioned to adapt to beat any opponent)

Originally posted by abhilegend
That's acceptable. Anybody who can break an amped Superman's arm like a twig isn't high herald.

I didn't do anything but state what is on panel. Its not my fault that people are so close minded. I always post proofs in my favor. Also I wasn't patronizing you. I apologize if that seemed that way.

Proof is factual. Inarguable. Your own interpretations aren't the same thing.

All right.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Proof is factual. Inarguable. Your own interpretations aren't the same thing.

All right.


Ok.

Originally posted by h1a8
DD tanks a full power OB (not at less than half power as those missiles)
http://imageshack.us/a/img638/9388/doomsdayhunterprey1pg34.jpg
He endured two consecutive bursts of the OB, actually:

Originally posted by Galan007
He endured two consecutive bursts of the OB, actually:
how's that two? not that I dispute HP DD's incredible durability

Originally posted by Starscream M
how's that two? not that I dispute HP DD's incredible durability

I presume he's referring to the last panel of the second scan, where there is a huge magenta glow, after Darkseid makes his "fiery pits of Apokolips" statement.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
I presume he's referring to the last panel of the second scan, where there is a huge magenta glow, after Darkseid makes his "fiery pits of Apokolips" statement.
👆

Darkseid zapped DD once, which hurled him into the structure. He then zapped him again after his brief monologue.

Originally posted by h1a8

Also I like to see the scan where it shows Thor Godblast without Mjolnir. Even so, HP DD tanked the OB, which was more powerful than the Godblast in that arc. Plus DD gains resistance on the fly and counter measures as well as healing instantly.
IIRC, Thor did the Forecast, without Mjolnir during the Ragnorak event. I don't have the issue anymore, but you can look it up yourself.

Originally posted by h1a8
Here is proof that Thor can't win this fight.

1. Thor can't really damage DD.
[B]PROOF

Superman can't damage missiles using all of his might.

The OB at less than half of it's power (one beam vs. two and striking far away) instant vapored missiles that Superman is shown to not be able to damage using all of his might.

DD tanks a full power OB (not at less than half power as those missiles)

Proof that OB is more powerful from point blank range

A much weaker DD no selling JL energy beams

2. DD adapts to the staying in the air tactic and also shows intelligence

3. DD Heals instantly from damage.

4. DD adapts resistance (it is mentioned to adapt to beat any opponent)
[/B]

Yawn, first off. Apokalypse is famous throughout the universe for the weapons trade. It's perfectly logical that Darksied would've designed them so that only he could destroy them in the event they were ever used against him. Secondly, that version of Darksied was latter retconned to have been an avatar created by Dasaad, and not the real Darksied. Besides the first OR blast was from much further away and would've had time to weaken, allowing Doomsday to have already adapted when he was blasted from point blank range. As for the anti air attack, Thor wouldn't be flying in the strategy I presented because he wouldn't have Mjolnir in hand, so that scan is irrelevant. Lastly all those attacks you posted, with the exception of the energy sword (and for the record I think Superman would've been able to decapitate Doomsday with that sword had he tried, or if he didn't lose it) he had faced previously, so of course they wouldn't affect him the same way twice. The only reason Waveriders attack didn't work is because Doomsday doesn't have a central nervous system to shut down.

Originally posted by Galan007
👆

Darkseid zapped DD once, which hurled him into the structure. He then zapped him again after his brief monologue.

The way I interpret that it was that Darkseid was about to fire a second shot of OE (power up, that is why you see the glow) when DD just didn't allowed him to do it, because of the knee to the face.

But I can see it the other way too, I never tough about it, but it is quite possible

Originally posted by Brockalizer
IIRC, Thor did the Forecast, without Mjolnir during the Ragnorak event. I don't have the issue anymore, but you can look it up yourself.
I meant Godblast, not forecast. Damn auto correct.

Originally posted by Brockalizer
Secondly, that version of Darksied was latter retconned to have been an avatar created by Dasaad, and not the real Darksied.
This is such an overblown myth. Frankly, it's ridiculous.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
The way I interpret that it was that Darkseid was about to fire a second shot of OE (power up, that is why you see the glow) when DD just didn't allowed him to do it, because of the knee to the face.

But I can see it the other way too, I never tough about it, but it is quite possible

Darkseid blasted him twice.

Here's the entire scene:

First scan: Darkseid blasts DD with the OE, which hurls him into a nearby structure.
Second scan: Darkseid stops firing his OE, monologues for a bit, then blasts his OE a second time(as evident by the HUGE pink aura that encompasses the field in the last 2 panels.)
Third scan: Darkseid begins walking away from the field, and DD bursts out from under the rubble and attacks him.

Originally posted by Galan007
This is such an overblown myth. Frankly, it's ridiculous.

Darkseid blasted him twice.

Here's the entire scene:

First scan: Darkseid blasts DD with the OE, which hurls him into a nearby structure.
Second scan: Darkseid stops firing his OE, monologues for a bit, then blasts his OE a second time(as evident by the HUGE pink aura that encompasses the field in the last 2 panels.)
Third scan: Darkseid begins walking away from the field, and DD bursts out from under the rubble and attacks him.

Oh that one!, yes I agree 👆

I though the one where DS gets the knee on the face

^ Oh yeah, DD most definitely prevented that blast:

Originally posted by Brockalizer
With CIS off, here is exactly what I would do if I was Thor. Toss Mjolnir just right so that the strap at the base of the handle snags the bone protruding from Doomsdays' chest. While he's face down in the dirt, and unable to get back to his feet I'd God blast the shit out of him.

Wishful thinking eh?

Originally posted by Brockalizer
Yawn, first off. Apokalypse is famous throughout the universe for the weapons trade. It's perfectly logical that Darksied would've designed them so that only he could destroy them in the event they were ever used against him. Secondly, that version of Darksied was latter retconned to have been an avatar created by Dasaad, and not the real Darksied. Besides the first OR blast was from much further away and would've had time to weaken, allowing Doomsday to have already adapted when he was blasted from point blank range. As for the anti air attack, Thor wouldn't be flying in the strategy I presented because he wouldn't have Mjolnir in hand, so that scan is irrelevant. Lastly all those attacks you posted, with the exception of the energy sword (and for the record I think Superman would've been able to decapitate Doomsday with that sword had he tried, or if he didn't lose it) he had faced previously, so of course they wouldn't affect him the same way twice. The only reason Waveriders attack didn't work is because Doomsday doesn't have a central nervous system to shut down.

This stuff never happened. There is no DS, there is no missiles, or DD. Thus the only thing that exists is the story told and the writer's intentions. Anything else is called making stuff up. Although DS's comments prove it was him (no one has ever survived the omega beams from point blank range, omega beams burn hotter than the pit of Apokalyspe. It doesn't matter whether DS was an avatar or not since we seen what the OB was capable of on panel. It could have been joe blow with the OB and we still get the exact same awesome feat.

LOL, at you making stuff up.

Without BFR, Thor has NO CHANCE to beat HP Doomsday. Without BFR, I wouldnt even give Thor the reliable win over DOS Doomsday, and HP DD is a level above that. Thor does his best, fights his hardest, and dies, horribly, within a matter of minutes.