DCNU Superman vs DCNU Martian Manhunter

But Martian Manhunter intagibility work this was ? By moving his molecules at high speed ? I dont think so...

Originally posted by eaebiakuya
But Martian Manhunter intagibility work this was ? By moving his molecules at high speed ? I dont think so...

Flash, and the guy from the scan you quoted get intangible by vibrating molecules.

Martian Manhunter not.

In Flash series we saw cold can make his molecules slower. In this scan Superman used his freezing breath to do something like that.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yes.

No question. In fact, he's blocked out MM's tp under Ostrander, who wrote the definitive version of the character.

Plus his rogues gallery includes telepaths that put even Manhunter to shame.

Originally posted by eaebiakuya
But Martian Manhunter intagibility work this was ? By moving his molecules at high speed ? I dont think so...

Originally posted by eaebiakuya
Flash, and the guy from the scan you quoted get intangible by vibrating molecules.

Martian Manhunter not.

In Flash series we saw cold can make his molecules slower. In this scan Superman used his freezing breath to do something like that.

This is just as much as a stomp as it was before the newest feat. Seriously. Heat vision will f*** MM up. Supes can tag intangible things as well. Supes did better against Billy. Zod almost killed MM in a few punches. Supes has much better strength and speed feats. The list goes on.

Also, trying to say that Supes and MM are equal strength wise because they both were lifting something is dumb. Seriously. It's like a power lifter trying to bench 480 pounds and needing a spot from a weaker guy. Would you seriously claim that the spotter is just as strong simply because he helped the guy benching to lift it? It's silly. Simply silly.

Saying that Supes and MM each lifted 50% of that ship is just a playing safe because we don't know exactly how much stronger Supes is than MM. Everyone knows though that Supes lifted more, we just don't know how much more. Thus people play it safe and say 50% when we all know damn well that Supes likely did more than 50%. Especially since it was Pak writing it.

Still this:

Originally posted by Epicurus
Theoretically speaking, Manhunter should win. In a comic, it'll probably be Superman.

Originally posted by abhilegend
That was a ghost. I don't think J'onn can become "more" tangible than a ghost.

What matter here is how MM gets intangible. This technique from Superman only work in people who get intangible by vibrating molecules. If MM get intangible by another way, this will not work.

Anyone know how works MM intangibility ? Was explained in new 52?

Originally posted by carver9
Guess heat vision won't work on MM since he was at the sun recently. Martian Manhunter and Supes are even strength wise. Giving the edge to Hunter due to versatility and telepathy.

Unless there was narration or something to give context, them sharing in a feat is in no way proof of equal strength. At best proof of same class. But you wouldn't know better Kitty-Kat.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
How da **** does HV tag intangible beings?

Man...FKN S.

[b]Edit Also LMFAO Martian Vision weakening Jonn. LOL. And heat. Damn. Really sucks to be him. [/B]

Superman used his Heat Vision to hurt intangible opponents at least 3 times in the Pre-DCnU days.

Originally posted by carver9
Superman isn't stronger though and being faster is debatable.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Are you basing this off their recent feat?

In general. By the way, looking at their recent ft, wouldn't that make J'onn stronger than an average Superman?

I'm also basing it off the fact that MM took on the League including Superman and held his own.

Originally posted by carver9
In general. By the way, looking at their recent ft, wouldn't that make J'onn stronger than an average Superman?

Why would it make J'onn "stronger than an average Superman?"

Originally posted by Delta1938
Why would it make J'onn "stronger than an average Superman?"

Look at that entire showing and you'll see why. Look what happened before they pushed the ship.

Originally posted by carver9
Look at that entire showing and you'll see why. Look what happened before they pushed the ship.

Just tell me. In your own words.

Originally posted by Delta1938
Just tell me. In your own words.

Why when you can look at it and see. It's right there.

Originally posted by carver9

I'm also basing it off the fact that MM took on the League including Superman and held his own.

Before Superman single-handedly said, screw this, and took him apart and thrashed him.

Originally posted by carver9
Why when you can look at it and see. It's right there.

You never even asked a question. Tell me in your own words. Now. Or concede.

Originally posted by carver9
Look at that entire showing and you'll see why. Look what happened before they pushed the ship.

If was to put in a figure, I would say Clark supplied at least 75% of the power.

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Originally posted by celeyhyga17
J'onn has a known fire weakness. They went to the sun so Clark could amp up. During reentry J'onn is clearly shown burning up(probably weakening). Even though it was a shared feat, if anything Supes easily shouldered most of the weight from those two factors. Add in the fact that Clark is generally known as the stronger of the two.

huhu So basically J'onn was there to cheerlead and Kitty Kat's poor reading comprehension took that as "YEAH!!! Superman isn't as strong as he really is!!" And went to fap to more Hulk comics. uhuh