Originally posted by celeyhyga17
J'onn has a known fire weakness. They went to the sun so Clark could amp up. During reentry J'onn is clearly shown burning up(probably weakening). Even though it was a shared feat, if anything Supes easily shouldered most of the weight from those two factors. Add in the fact that Clark is generally known as the stronger of the two.
This guy knows what I am talking about. Nothing proven that Martian didn't pull half of the weight tbh. It's a made up assumption tbh.
As the most powerful? J'onn was stated as being the most powerful as well. Statements doesn't hold weight for either.
It appears fire doesn't hurt J'onn as much as it did in the past or Pak just ignored it. Why would you think reentry would weakened him I n stead of him being directly at the sun?
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Originally posted by celeyhyga17
J'onn has a known fire weakness. They went to the sun so Clark could amp up. During reentry J'onn is clearly shown burning up(probably weakening). Even though it was a shared feat, if anything Supes easily shouldered most of l weight from those two factors. Add in the fact that Clark is generally known as the stronger of the two.If was to put in a figure, I would say Clark supplied at least 75% of the power.
Lies.
A weakened MM was the equal of Superman. In fact, even whilst the fire was weakening him, he was still shouldering the burden of Kal.
I would say MM supplied at least 99% of the weight, which may have dropped to 95% as the flames took their toll.
Originally posted by carver9
This guy knows what I am talking about. Nothing proven that Martian didn't pull half of the weight tbh. It's a made up assumption tbh.As the most powerful? J'onn was stated as being the most powerful as well. Statements doesn't hold weight for either.
It appears fire doesn't hurt J'onn as much as it did in the past or Pak just ignored it. Why would you think reentry would weakened him I n stead of him being directly at the sun?
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"Fire doesn't hurt him as much?" You talking Pre or Post-FLASHPOINT?
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
During reentry J'onn is clearly shown burning
This is weird, because when he come to earth for the first time he didnt burn in reentry.
I dont think MM is stronger than Superman. But we have some statements who say they are comparable phisically. And i think this new feat back up those claims. Superman could be stronger, but not by that much.
Originally posted by eaebiakuya
This is weird, because when he come to earth for the first time he didnt burn in reentry.I dont think MM is stronger than Superman. But we have some statements who say they are comparable phisically. And i think this new feat back up those claims. Superman could be stronger, but not by that much.
Pre-FLASHPOINT, Wonder Woman has a bunch of shared feats with Superman(mostly Superman and others but at least one just them) that you can argue the same thing. But Superman is MUCH stronger than Wonder Woman in New Earth continuity.
Originally posted by carver9
Superman isn't stronger though and being faster is debatable.
How characters fight USING VERSATILITY has no bearing on whose stronger. Dr. Strange, using his versatility, can hold his own against the JL in a comic. Doesn't mean he is as strong as Superman.
In general. By the way, looking at their recent ft, wouldn't that make J'onn stronger than an average Superman?I'm also basing it off the fact that MM took on the League including Superman and held his own.
Originally posted by Zack Fair
So what other strength feat John has besides that shared feat with Superman?And is it anywhere close to that one? Because Superman has one in the bag which is pretty much in the same ballpark. Solo.
Taking on the JLA. I think there is another fight between him and Supes in JLA Dark (even though Superman was sick).
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
J'onn has a known fire weakness. They went to the sun so Clark could amp up. During reentry J'onn is clearly shown burning up(probably weakening). Even though it was a shared feat, if anything Supes easily shouldered most of the weight from those two factors. Add in the fact that Clark is generally known as the stronger of the two.If was to put in a figure, I would say Clark supplied at least 75% of the power.
He went to the sun to amp his heat vision.
Throughout his history, the fastest way for superman to expend extra energy was to shoot it out via his heat vision. After that blast, I would think that he was back to normal levels.
It's also interesting, that heat vision feat shows that superman is the top dog. MM was capped and what they had wouldnt be enough so they sent superman to the sun to exceed his normal self. If MM had something similar at disposal, they wouldnt have needed to fly out to the sun. This shows that superman is top dog and when they need something done out of the ordinary, they send him to the sun and its enough to D whatever is needed.
Originally posted by eaebiakuya
This is weird, because when he come to earth for the first time he didnt burn in reentry.I dont think MM is stronger than Superman. But we have some statements who say they are comparable phisically. And i think this new feat back up those claims. Superman could be stronger, but not by that much.
Originally posted by Galan007
N00b Zod vs. JLA+Superman/WW:
Almost killed in three punches.
So yeah, not comparable to Superman physically.
