Originally posted by Ridley_PrimeFar as Apoc's look, I was mixed on like the armor design and such, but kinda grew on me by the time I saw the film. Far as appearance though, what all would you have changed to him, out of curiosity? Something closer looking to the Celestial armor designs in the comics would've been fine too, but certain features like the big lips wouldn't looked silly in live action.
I don't buy that at all tbh. I think they could have made him exactly like the comics just like Marvel have done Thanos's look straight from the comics.
Which can work more easily when dealing with an alien or an ancient being.
What they did was just make Oscar Isaac blue and give him an ugly forehead IMO.
Originally posted by Ridley_PrimeApoc's powers, while different from the norm for him, still did him justice as a supervillain I felt. Liked how he was able to manipulate stone the way Magneto does metal, etc. But they could've done without the thing of him needing to transfer his essence to another host, since that wasn't done until like after he lost his original body, but minor nitpick. I will admit though I was disappointed that he didn't get to assume a giant form outside of the astral plane. The shapeshifting stuff with his arms would've been nice too I suppose, though that was never one of his top defining abilities for me. Part of what makes Apocalypse interesting to me is how he's so versatile with his abilities that his powers can be different depending on who writes him. i.e. His powers are never that consistent.
To me the shape shifting arms into weapons and shields and size changing and flight ability are his defining abilities and didn't recognise him without those things.
To me it seems like they just took the lazy way out by using the Name Apocalypse but then just making their own invincible villain which fitted the typical "will destroy humanity" plot they had in mind.
Originally posted by Ridley_PrimeBut whatever. I'm sorry the movie didn't do it for you far as him.
You don't have to be sorry. All film is subjective. And I'm glad you really enjoyed this, because it must be an Epic X-Men trilogy for you now, one which I wish I got.
I'm certainly not going to Troll the boards with my Apoc hate and talk down to everyone who likes this movie like the extreme BvS haters did with that film. Even though the same justification is there with messing up the Villain's look, characterisation, motives, personality e.t.c. and having a bad score on RT.
I actually forgot about Thanos there (all those post-credit buildup scenes or whatever while he still has yet to make his real debut 😬), so point taken.
He also showed some forms of telekenesis and things in the comics and such, though not as often as those other examples mentioned; guess they sorta focused too much on TK and stuff like with the stone manipulation. And yeah, Apoc's lack of flight of all things was an odd one, though I was more bothered by the lack of turning giant outside of the astral plane, as mentioned before.
Regarding the "destroy most of the population" plot, it did fit Apocalypse's usual survival of the fittest motto, but there was also plenty other things they could've done with him, so a shame we won't get to see him explored in other ways here since, you know...
Though some of your criticisms on Apocalypse are indeed valid, I don't see this Apoc being on Jesse Eisenberg Luthor levels of character assassination or anything... But fair enough, far as all that.
Originally posted by Ridley_PrimeStorm, Angel also were just eye candy in my opinion. We barely get any back story on them they just basically get picked and decide to follow Apocalypse. You also get Jubilee doing nothing at all. Out of all the horsemen only Magneto had depth.
Who besides Psylocke was eye candy?As mentioned, I am quite sad that they made
Spoiler:, no matter who directs. Still seems that no one besides Magneto can be recurring as an antagonist (yeah, I know he's kept alive because he has redeeming qualities as a character, yadayada).
Apocalypse a one-off villain, so I have no doubt that they'll kill Essex/Sinister by the end of the next movieForgot to comment on it before, but
Spoiler:
kinda sucked about Havok's death, who Quicksilver conveniently couldn't save out of everyone else in the exploding mansion, but at least it'll give Scott more a chance to shine again in the future, who has had the best treatment he's had in the movies in a long time, as pointed out.
Originally posted by Newjak
Storm, Angel also were just eye candy in my opinion. We barely get any back story on them they just basically get picked and decide to follow Apocalypse. You also get Jubilee doing nothing at all. Out of all the horsemen only Magneto had depth.
I don't think its really fair to compare Magneto's depth to the rest of the horsemen as this version has 3 movies worth of character development. Also Storm did enough to at least warrant a minor role IMO. It did suck that Jubilee was introduced just to do nothing.
Originally posted by Ridley_PrimeThough some of your criticisms on Apocalypse are indeed valid, I don't see this Apoc being on Jesse Eisenberg Luthor levels of character assassination or anything... But fair enough, far as all that.
Jesse Luthor was pretty bad yeah. Although I think Doomsday was much closer to the comic book depiction than Apoc funnily enough. They literally just had to give him the proper spikes. Apoc was just way off base though.
As for everything else, I think You've basically got the same negatives on Apoc as I have, it's just bothered me a lot more. Plus I did just find the film itself underwhelming and a big step down from FC and DOFP.
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakkaThat's fair and I didn't expect them to have the same depth but I did expect them to have some depth and way more than we got. Storm had the most and even then I'm left wondering why she even joined Apoc to begin with. She basically just joins him because he boosts her powers. And the other two were even worse.
I don't think its really fair to compare Magneto's depth to the rest of the horsemen as this version has 3 movies worth of character development. Also Storm did enough to at least warrant a minor role IMO. It did suck that Jubilee was introduced just to do nothing.
Instead of choosing characters that would have made the horsemen more depth they added new ones and did barely anything with them. My guess simply so they could get cool looking powers and people in the movie.
Originally posted by Darth ThorI didn't think that Apoc was bad I just think he was under used. He came off to me as one long monologue. The actor was good they could have done so much more.
Jesse Luthor was pretty bad yeah. Although I think Doomsday was much closer to the comic book depiction than Apoc funnily enough. They literally just had to give him the proper spikes. Apoc was just way off base though.As for everything else, I think You've basically got the same negatives on Apoc as I have, it's just bothered me a lot more. Plus I did just find the film itself underwhelming and a big step down from FC and DOFP.
Originally posted by SurturIt isn't terrible and the ending to me saves a lot of its flaws. Too many characters without their shining moments or screen time is an accurate criticism. Angel and storm sucked.
About to watch this movie in full, but I heard it's f'ing terrible. It has a 48% on Rotten Tomatoes.
Originally posted by Newjak
That's fair and I didn't expect them to have the same depth but I did expect them to have some depth and way more than we got. Storm had the most and even then I'm left wondering why she even joined Apoc to begin with. She basically just joins him because he boosts her powers. And the other two were even worse.Instead of choosing characters that would have made the horsemen more depth they added new ones and did barely anything with them. My guess simply so they could get cool looking powers and people in the movie.
Fair enough about Storm. Though I was disappointed by Angel as he was probably the worst of the bunch despite being the only proper horseman that was present.
With that said their powers did look kind of cool, at least Magneto's and Storm's anyway.
Originally posted by janus77
Great film, not quite as good as CA:CW, but far better than AoU and even Deadpool.Not sure I like the actor that they chose for Cyclops, but warming to the guy that plays Quick Silver.
Magneto and Prof. X. were excellent. And Jennifer Lawrence was great in such a central role.
The ending was a little limp and you could see it coming (though I kept hoping for some more fight to Apoc.), the moment Xavier was in play.
Should have been more elaboration on Apoc. The initial build-up was excellent, but not enough follow-up.
I think it was equal with Civil War, I just dont know how this film could have gotten better. Apoc was a little underwhelming, but everyone else was just amazing.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Why are people hating on this movie??? This was full of so much action/character. I walked away blown away how great this movie was. I had the same feeling when I left civil war.
My friend liked Apocalypse, too. Most people in my theater did, I think. All around great flick. Phuck the critics.