Combat speed

Originally posted by abhilegend
How is wonder woman faster than Superman based on a writer's views who openly admitted that he nerfed Superman? Look who is getting blitzed and pimp smacked here.

Also a huge lulz @ Thor having 80% of combat speed as Superman and Gladiator being equal to him.

Because of the many other stories and scans that state she's faster? There was one where they even had a conversation about it I believe in one of them. Your one isolated incident doesn't override their entire history.

Originally posted by carver9
😂

Thanks buddy.

He's the extremist Eradicator to my Kal-El. Always 'glory of Krypton' this, and 'rule the Terrans' that. Quite bothersome, honestly.

Originally posted by carver9
The search function sucks. Dark, can you link me to the thread, please.?

Consider this your final warning. I will PM Bada about your lazy ways.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=14493225#post14493225

Originally posted by abhilegend
If Superman's combat speed is 100, rate these characters' combat speed.

1. Wonder Woman
2. Black Adam
3. Gladiator
4. Silver Surfer
5. Thor

Preboot DC versions of characters. Go.

😂 @ Carver

Since the OP specifically states combat speed.

1. Wonder Woman-95(Seen many amazing reaction feats from WW imo)
2. Black Adam-90-(haven't really seen much impressive speed feats from him, but he was able to tag Jay Garrick)
3. Gladiator-120-(Nanosecond speed reactions. Look at his fight with Hyperion)
4. Silver Surfer-85(Even though the fastest on the list. I have not seen much impressive combat feats from SS sadly. Still the fastest on the list and faster than supes)
5. Thor-50(Slowest on the list when it comes to combat speed. Street levelers gave him hard time with their speed)

1. Wonder Woman - 90
2. Black Adam - 90
3. Gladiator - 95
4. Silver Surfer - 70
5. Thor - 60

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Consider this your final warning. I will PM Bada about your lazy ways.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=14493225#post14493225

Thanks buddy. I knew there was a large debate about the topic.

Originally posted by Stranglehold300
Since the OP specifically states [B]combat speed.

1. Wonder Woman-95(Seen many amazing reaction feats from WW imo)
2. Black Adam-90-(haven't really seen much impressive speed feats from him, but he was able to tag Jay Garrick)
3. Gladiator-120-(Nanosecond speed reactions. Look at his fight with Hyperion)
4. Silver Surfer-85(Even though the fastest on the list. I have not seen much impressive combat feats from SS sadly. Still the fastest on the list and faster than supes)
5. Thor-50(Slowest on the list when it comes to combat speed. Street levelers gave him hard time with their speed) [/B]

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1. Wonder Woman--100
2. Black Adam--99
3. Gladiator--85
4. Silver Surfer--75
5. Thor--40

Originally posted by Stranglehold300
Since the OP specifically states [B]combat speed.

1. Wonder Woman-95(Seen many amazing reaction feats from WW imo)
2. Black Adam-90-(haven't really seen much impressive speed feats from him, but he was able to tag Jay Garrick)
3. Gladiator-120-(Nanosecond speed reactions. Look at his fight with Hyperion)
4. Silver Surfer-85(Even though the fastest on the list. I have not seen much impressive combat feats from SS sadly. Still the fastest on the list and faster than supes)
5. Thor-50(Slowest on the list when it comes to combat speed. Street levelers gave him hard time with their speed) [/B]

Superman has far, far better feats than nanosecond levels.

Gladiator is thus not faster, he's significantly slower at high feats, (no surprise there, the guy has a fraction of the showings) but he's close enough to Superman's average to only be 15 points lower in my view.

Other thing that strike me- One thing that happens in the Sacrifice fight is Superman rapid-fires heatvision at superspeed while charging. That wouldn't be affected by whether or not he sees her as Doomsday.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Because of the many other stories and scans that state she's faster? There was one where they even had a conversation about it I believe in one of them. Your one isolated incident doesn't override their entire history.

And like I mentioned, he doesn't even keep up that level of performance for the rest of the fight. He's trying to get past her and she keeps him away. They both hit each other back and forth, he is not portrayed as a faster fighter than her in For Tomorrow.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Superman has far, far better feats than nanosecond levels.

Gladiator is thus not faster, he's significantly slower at high feats, (no surprise there, the guy has a fraction of the showings) but he's close enough to Superman's average to only be 15 points lower in my view.

When?

Also Wonder Women and Black Adam are definitely not faster than Gladiator. Gladiator is confirmed FTL, I dont remember Black Adam being stated to be FTL.

Originally posted by Stranglehold300
When?

Also Wonder Women and Black Adam are definitely not faster than Gladiator. Gladiator is confirmed FTL, I dont remember Black Adam being stated to be FTL.

Superman has casually operated as though a fraction of a nanosecond was at least a couple of minutes long to him. Though the narration did say that fraction of a nanosecond was actually 'suspended for eternity' or something flowery like that.

Gladiator and Hyperion simply had a short scuffle that lasted nanoseconds. That's a huge difference in speed.

Hell, Superman has operated under complete time-stop as well with no strain.

As for BA and WW, their catalogue of speed feats aren't as good, but they are peers of Superman, at least BA is. Fair enough if you don't think that's enough to rank them close to him.

1. 99
2. 89
3. 99
4. 9999
5. 9

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Because of the many other stories and scans that state she's faster? There was one where they even had a conversation about it I believe in one of them. Your one isolated incident doesn't override their entire history.

Originally posted by Stranglehold300
Since the OP specifically states [B]combat speed.

1. Wonder Woman-95(Seen many amazing reaction feats from WW imo)
2. Black Adam-90-(haven't really seen much impressive speed feats from him, but he was able to tag Jay Garrick)
3. Gladiator-120-(Nanosecond speed reactions. Look at his fight with Hyperion)
4. Silver Surfer-85(Even though the fastest on the list. I have not seen much impressive combat feats from SS sadly. Still the fastest on the list and faster than supes)
5. Thor-50(Slowest on the list when it comes to combat speed. Street levelers gave him hard time with their speed) [/B]

http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/NanosecondPerception.jpg

Fraction of a nanosecond suspended to eternity. Again Byrne Superman.

Nanosecond speed again.

http://s1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/?action=view&current=superman_nano_second_reaction.jpg
http://s1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/?action=view&current=as603p19.jpg

Originally posted by Q99
Other thing that strike me- One thing that happens in the Sacrifice fight is Superman rapid-fires heatvision at superspeed while charging. That wouldn't be affected by whether or not he sees her as Doomsday.

And like I mentioned, he doesn't even keep up that level of performance for the rest of the fight. He's trying to get past her and she keeps him away. They both hit each other back and forth, he is not portrayed as a faster fighter than her in For Tomorrow.

Also how many times it has to said, he wasn't trying to get past her. He's trying to take her away from the machine.

1.WW.110
2.BA.90
3.Glads.130
4.SS.100
5.Thor.70

Anybody who thinks Thor is 70% as fast as superman should think before they draw a breath.

Thor's the fastest there is.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Thor's the fastest there is.