Originally posted by TzeentchIt makes perfect sense. The gold jizz made him want to spew his own jizz. Only way he releases is if he decimates the lessers.
That doesn't even make sense.Accept that Smaug has no chance here.
Smaug eradicates the weaker, dumb, idiotic, foolish, peasant known as a Balrog.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
No matter how you figure it.. Balrogs have a higher origin than Dragons do.. They are either part of Melkor or maia corrupted by Melkor... in either case.. above a dragon.However, now it seems the argument has switched to Sauron vs. Gothmog... so let's examine that since that is harder to determine. Gothmog being above a dragon isn't.
Please reference me where Sauron killed the people you mention... I don't remember it being that way at all nor the cirucmstances behind him "killing" these elves. Further, even the onces you mention aren't even in the same league as Feanor.. fingon and ecth.. all above ANYBODY Sauron has beaten.
Shit, let's look at how both died.. one died by one of the best Elven Lords in history by his kamikazi move as he was certain to die.. Shall we even discuss how Sauron has been defeated? Suffice to say.. it was by much much less as you very well know.
You say Sauron was second to Morgoth.. problem is.. that was just politically. Gothmog had his SAME rank but was also named High Captain... something of which Suaron wasn't. It was Gothmog LEADING the forces and commanding them into battle nto Sauron. Shit, Sauson was never in charge of anything or leading anything while Gothmog was around.
Shall we examine all the battles Sauron lead Morgoths forces and how many times Gothmog has...Oooohhh wait... that might be tough for you.. I'll start it off with a few and let's see what you have... Gothmog lead the forces at Dagor-nuin-Giliath... Nirnaeth Arnoediad.... Fall of Gondolin,. battle of unumbered tears... Now please list for me the battles that Sauron led when Gothmog was around.. You won't find them.. wanna know why? Cause Gothmog was the high captain.. he was the general in charge... So here is what we are left with...
Gothmog has superior battle feats and victories... The best slayings of Gothmog top the best of Sauron.
We have gothmog beaten by the better more powerful person.. this isn't even close. Even still, when Gothmog got killed he also killed the High Elven Lord... can't say the same for Suaron.
Then we say who was in charge of leading morgoths forces in attack or defense of Melkor.. Again the answer is Gothmog not Sauron... he is never put in that position because he's not the warrior Gothmog is. This is illustrated any number of ways that slap you right in the face. Sauron was the politician.. Gothmog the general. of battle. No way around that fact. Now I'll wait for your listing of battles and the references to when sauron killed these guys.
Originally posted by RobtardThis is a movie versus thread in which he isn't a Balrog. Are you new here ? He came in here from the get go spewing book nonsense. There was no Balrog in the films named Gothmog, Diane.
They're discussing the books; there's two characters named "Gothmog"; one being a balrog, you nigh illiterate assclown.
Originally posted by RobtardI did read the Hobbit as a youth but that is neither here nor there. He came in from the beginning in the movie versus citing the books and according to a few others lying about them as well.
No shit, dumbass. So tell them not to debate books in here if you must cry.But don't tell them they're wrong from a literature standpoint when you've not read a single Tolkien book.
This is the movie versus forum. Quit rushing to other men's side. This is where we debate movies only. 🙂
Originally posted by RobtardNo, the thread has already been derailed into book nonsense. I am calling them out as the voice of reason.
Still crying I see. Good job derailing and ruining another of your own threads cos you have to attention-whore it up."Focus on me, guys. On me!!!"
Smaug wins. Bigger, stronger, faster, smarter, and more durable.
Originally posted by Tzeentch
I thought you were Ares all this time.I'm sorry Ares.
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When I saw it on my iphone, for a second or two, I thought someone hacked my account...
Originally posted by Robtard
In Fellowship, Legolas states Balrogs are the most powerful save Sauron.
Here is what he says:
"'It was a Balrog of Morgoth,' said Legolas; 'of all elf-banes the most deadly, save the One who sits in the Dark Tower.'"
I wouldn't say it is particularly definite. Not only is it a statement from a fallible character but it comes across as an off the hand comment. After all, Morogth is most certainly an "elf-bane" and he is far more deadly than a Balrog.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
However, now it seems the argument has switched to Sauron vs. Gothmog... so let's examine that since that is harder to determine. Gothmog being above a dragon isn't.
I created a thread. Suffice to say, you are wrong.