Originally posted by UtrigitaSauron doesn't even have a body so lets not act like he's even act like he's close to full power at this point. Gandalf was soundly defeated despite facing off against Sauron minus a body. Sauron is the baddest being out there from Peter Jackson's films.
He pushed back Sauron who is one of the strongest (if not the strongest) magic user amongst the Maia three or four times, while Gandalf was weakened (granted so was Sauron) but to act like Gandalf was owned by Sauron is simply not correct.
Originally posted by BloodRainSorta. He escaped the seal left by the sages, and even killed them, but he couldn't stop Fi from pinning down the bulk of his power, rendering him a much less potent threat than he would have otherwise been, but being basically unstoppable without returning his full power, catch 22.
But either way Dorf was still chilling at his pad?
Originally posted by NemeBro
Yet even the Master Sword fails to kill him. Interesting.Go away little boy. You know nothing of what you speak. For all intents and purposes, Ganondorf can not die here.
Ganon surviving injury and holy damage doesn't mean he'll survive a spell that instantly kills anyone regardless of protection (other than wuv).
Originally posted by NephthysThe attack also doesn't cause physical body damage. It isn't a durability kill which he seems to be able to resist while given the time.
Ganon surviving injury and holy damage doesn't mean he'll survive a spell that instantly kills anyone regardless of protection (other than wuv).
Originally posted by Nephthys
Ganon surviving injury and holy damage doesn't mean he'll survive a spell that instantly kills anyone regardless of protection (other than wuv).
AK has no noteworthy feats, has never killed anyone with any modicum of defense, is too slow to matter, and too weak to effect Ganon. If Voldemort's lucky Ganon won't backhand it back at him.
Ahh so it comes down to the inevitable Dorf vs Tom fight for 1st and 2nd.
Originally posted by ScreamPasteAll these years, still cant keep up >_>
Sorta. He escaped the seal left by the sages, and even killed them, but he couldn't stop Fi from pinning down the bulk of his power, rendering him a much less potent threat than he would have otherwise been, but being basically unstoppable without returning his full power, catch 22.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
'regardless of their protection', I had a good laugh at this, thank you, Neph.AK has no noteworthy feats, has never killed anyone with any modicum of defense, is too slow to matter, and too weak to effect Ganon. If Voldemort's lucky Ganon won't backhand it back at him.
The wizarding world has never found a defense against it other than twu wuv, and they've pulled off crazy magical shit. Time travel, rapid aging, transfiguration, giving objects sentience, monitoring entire countries, censoring certain words, etc etc. Hell, they have a door into the afterlife and they still can't block it.
Originally posted by BloodRainFeats and what not back me up. Not a durability attack and it kills those it hits. Dorf can resist durability attacks within reason. Mort also destroyed a shield hundreds of wizards were assaulting for minutes in a few moments after they pissed him off.
In your unchanging opinion. I ours, and by feats and showings, Dorf wins. And these stances aren't going to change.
Originally posted by NephthysI'm afraid that they have, actually, hell, even the love charm used by Harry's mother is explicitly 'simple'. Unforgivable =/= unstoppable.
The wizarding world has never found a defense against it other than twu wuv, and they've pulled off crazy magical shit. Time travel, rapid aging, transfiguration, giving objects sentience, monitoring entire countries, censoring certain words, etc etc. Hell, they have a door into the afterlife and they still can't block it.
Ganondorf tanks magical effects so far beyond the scope of the potterverse it's laughable.
Originally posted by quanchi112I just said in your opinion. You believe breaking an already damaged shield with the durability feats coming from the weak wizards attack is above things like the castle busting, which you will go on to say never happened unless the last thread swayed your opinion. Guess Scene could fill me in there.
Feats and what not back me up. Not a durability attack and it kills those it hits. Dorf can resist durability attacks within reason. Mort also destroyed a shield hundreds of wizards were assaulting for minutes in a few moments after they pissed him off.
Then to think that despite holding resistance and magical durability, that a simple killing curse will instantly win. So yes, by your take on things.