That's still not proof.
There are many, many interpretations of the Bible - and to believe the Bible is inerrant is admitting that you don't have a thinking process to speak of - especially when the Bible contradicts itself in so many ways. OT - prostitutes must be stoned to death. NT - Jesus himself makes a friend of Mary Magdalene, a prostitute. OT - rabbis or church elders are the ultimate source of religious conduct and knowledge. NT - Jesus himself tells all who will listen that the church elders are idiots and that they should not listen to them.
Or, if the Bible must be taken seriously - all of it, and not just bits and pieces... Well, I guess my Dad can sell me off when he gets low on money. Good thing my sister is already married, and good thing she managed to marry for love, because my parents, along with a village of well-wishers and planners, could have made her marry someone for financial gain even if she hated the guy.
So, quoting the Bible is STILL "your say-so." Because you are just repeating [or SAYING] what you see as SO. "Proof" means something that would stand up in a court of law. That can be argued from both sides.
You know, it's okay if you can't prove your religion to be true. In fact, God doesn't want you to. He wants you to act with faith and, through your actions, make people want to ask about it. That sad [or terrific] part of religion is that you can't prove it's true. It only makes faith a more precious commodity.
Originally posted by siriuswriter
That's still not proof.
There are many, many interpretations of the Bible - and to believe the Bible is inerrant is admitting that you don't have a thinking process to speak of - especially when the Bible contradicts itself in so many ways. OT - prostitutes must be stoned to death. NT - Jesus himself makes a friend of Mary Magdalene, a prostitute. OT - rabbis or church elders are the ultimate source of religious conduct and knowledge. NT - Jesus himself tells all who will listen that the church elders are idiots and that they should not listen to them.
Or, if the Bible must be taken seriously - all of it, and not just bits and pieces... Well, I guess my Dad can sell me off when he gets low on money. Good thing my sister is already married, and good thing she managed to marry for love, because my parents, along with a village of well-wishers and planners, could have made her marry someone for financial gain even if she hated the guy.So, quoting the Bible is STILL "your say-so." Because you are just repeating [or SAYING] what you see as SO. "Proof" means something that would stand up in a court of law. That can be argued from both sides.
You know, it's okay if you can't prove your religion to be true. In fact, God doesn't want you to. He wants you to act with faith and, through your actions, make people want to ask about it. That sad [or terrific] part of religion is that you can't prove it's true. It only makes faith a more precious commodity.
JIA believes that he is possessed by the holy spirit. And that the holy spirit interprets the bible for him. He also believes that the bible is meant to be confusing to none-believers. This is a delusion that keeps him from seeing the simple points that you are making.
Oh Shaky, I know. Maybe the posts are more for myself, so I don't drive myself crazy reading these threads. Or maybe there are some silent watchers who may be thinking, "hey, that dude's right!" but aren't so far off the deep end that some good common sense may still change their minds.
Or maybe I'm just as crazy as JIA, thinking that if I keep saying these things, he might actually pay attention once. Lost cause, I know...
Originally posted by siriuswriter
Oh Shaky, I know. Maybe the posts are more for myself, so I don't drive myself crazy reading these threads. Or maybe there are some silent watchers who may be thinking, "hey, that dude's right!" but aren't so far off the deep end that some good common sense may still change their minds.
Or maybe I'm just as crazy as JIA, thinking that if I keep saying these things, he might actually pay attention once. Lost cause, I know...
I liked what you had to say, but I had to point out to that "silent watchers who may be thinking" that JIA is crazy. 😉
Originally posted by siriuswriter
Oh Shaky, I know. Maybe the posts are more for myself, so I don't drive myself crazy reading these threads. Or maybe there are some silent watchers who may be thinking, "hey, that dude's right!" but aren't so far off the deep end that some good common sense may still change their minds.
Or maybe I'm just as crazy as JIA, thinking that if I keep saying these things, he might actually pay attention once. Lost cause, I know...
I'm not crazy.
I honor my Heavenly Father, Who is not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.