Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Is there something special about paradoxes? Actually, a paradox is a tool that gives you an indication that something is wrong with your idea.Also, the opposite of nothing is NOT something. Nothingness can be expressed in math. Nothingness = 0. The inverse of 0 is 0; therefore, the opposite of nothingness is nothingness.
Admitted? It is self-evident.
So, everything we imagine is real? Dancing unicorns are real?
Now, answer this question.All you have done is proven that all gods exist in some form or another, and form is the point. God does exist, but the god of the bible is not GOD! The god of the bible is no different than any other man-made god.
So, the god of the bible does not tell us the truth. Why would a god lie to us?
You asked me to think about something that cannot exist, and the rest didn’t matter, so I ignored it. Nothingness is not something you can imagine. It doesn’t matter what constraints you put on the conversation, the door is closed. You can’t use nothingness as evidence of something, because your evidence doesn’t exist. It is very possible, and is most likely the case, that humans made up the idea of a GOD all by themselves.
Unfortunately, it’s not the one you worship.
BTW God does not want to be worshiped, because God does not have a want. God is one and complete.
If anybody knows God the Father it is the Son Jesus Who was with the Father in the beginning (eternity).
The Lord Jesus said in John chapter 4 that the Father (God) seeks those who will worship Him in spirit and truth.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
If anybody knows God the Father it is the Son Jesus Who was with the Father in the beginning (eternity).
The Lord Jesus said in John chapter 4 that the Father (God) seeks those who will worship Him in spirit and truth.
Bodhisattva Jesus was a teacher, not a god (or God).
Are you going to answer my question?
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Bodhisattva Jesus was a teacher, not a god (or God).Are you going to answer my question?
I would note that Shakya is correct: Jesus was not God.
The idea of the Trinity came after Christ's dispensation and it was not something the Apostles taught.
Christ never claimed to be God or equal to God.
In fact, he said God was perfect, not himself:
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+5%3A48&version=KJV
"Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect."
As far as I am aware, only Mormons think Christ became equal to God in perfection AFTER his resurrection:
"48 Therefore I would that ye should be perfect even as I, or your Father who is in heaven is perfect."
http://www.lds.org/scriptures/bofm/3-ne/12.48
Also, as a Mormon, I feel humbled when Buddhists refer to Jesus as a "Bodhisattva." cry That's such a huge compliment, imo.
Originally posted by dadudemon
I would note that Shakya is correct: Jesus was not God.The idea of the Trinity came after Christ's dispensation and it was not something the Apostles taught.
Christ never claimed to be God or equal to God.
In fact, he said God was perfect, not himself:
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+5%3A48&version=KJV
"Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect."
As far as I am aware, only Mormons think Christ became equal to God in perfection AFTER his resurrection:
"48 Therefore I would that ye should be perfect even as I, or your Father who is in heaven is perfect."
http://www.lds.org/scriptures/bofm/3-ne/12.48
Also, as a Mormon, I feel humbled when Buddhists refer to Jesus as a "Bodhisattva." cry That's such a huge compliment, imo.
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Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Were there any Mormons in your community named Norman? I've always wanted to know someone I can call Mormon Norman. Or Norman the Mormon.
My wife's uncle is a Mormon and his name is Norman, but no one ever calls him Norman the Mormon. However, next time I see him, that will no longer be true. 😄
Originally posted by dadudemon
I would note that Shakya is correct: Jesus was not God.The idea of the Trinity came after Christ's dispensation and it was not something the Apostles taught.
Christ never claimed to be God or equal to God.
In fact, he said God was perfect, not himself:
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+5%3A48&version=KJV
"Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect."
As far as I am aware, only Mormons think Christ became equal to God in perfection AFTER his resurrection:
"48 Therefore I would that ye should be perfect even as I, or your Father who is in heaven is perfect."
http://www.lds.org/scriptures/bofm/3-ne/12.48
Also, as a Mormon, I feel humbled when Buddhists refer to Jesus as a "Bodhisattva." cry That's such a huge compliment, imo.
The Lord Jesus Christ told the Pharisees that their (fore) father Abraham rejoiced to see His day, and he (Abraham) saw it and was glad.
(Read John 8:56-59).
Confused by the remark, the Jews told Jesus that He was not yet fifty years old, and asked Him if He had seen Abraham.
Bear in mind that Abraham lived 2,000 years before Jesus (i.e. the eternal, preexistent Word) left Heaven, and became flesh--born of the virgin Mary.
The Lord Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was (i.e. was born, lived, and existed), I AM.”
They realized what Lord Jesus was saying.
Lord Jesus was saying that He is God.
The Lord Jesus was saying I, the Self-existent, eternal God, Who exists independently of any cause--live, exist, and AM (eternally, forever).
For I AM without beginning or end.
I AM the great God YHWH.
I AM the Alpha and Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and End.
I AM the eternal, unchanging Lord God Almighty, Creator of the heavens and the earth.
Upon hearing this they picked up stones to stone Jesus (for what they thought was blasphemy) after His bold announcement of Who He really is.
Lord Jesus identified Himself by the same Name that His Father identified Himself with in the burning bush passage at the time of Moses' call/installation as deliverer of the nation of Israel from bondage in Egypt.
(Read Exodus 3:14).
Jesus Christ is God.
Let that sink down into your hearing.
Originally posted by dadudemon
I would note that Shakya is correct: Jesus was not God.The idea of the Trinity came after Christ's dispensation and it was not something the Apostles taught.
Christ never claimed to be God or equal to God.
In fact, he said God was perfect, not himself:
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+5%3A48&version=KJV
"Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect."
As far as I am aware, only Mormons think Christ became equal to God in perfection AFTER his resurrection:
"48 Therefore I would that ye should be perfect even as I, or your Father who is in heaven is perfect."
http://www.lds.org/scriptures/bofm/3-ne/12.48
Also, as a Mormon, I feel humbled when Buddhists refer to Jesus as a "Bodhisattva." cry That's such a huge compliment, imo.
No, Shakyamunison is wrong.
See my reply 3 posts up ^ for the Truth.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
No, Shakyamunison is wrong…
Right or wrong is not the point. I don’t have a problem with your religion. I’m happy that you believe how you believe, but I feel that way about every religion or non-religion or whatever.
However, I must be honest with you, my friend, you are an a$$hole, and you need to be called out for that. You see, I think that most people here would agree that a person’s private relationship with God is none of your business. So, please don’t go around telling people they are going to hell. God did not appoint you as judge, and God does not tell you to tell people they are going to hell.
Originally posted by dadudemon
I quoted scripture that supports his position. He's good.
Where in Matthew 5:48 does Lord Jesus either admit or deny being perfect?
Lord Jesus was talking to His disciples, telling them that they shall be perfect even as their Father in Heaven is perfect.
If the disciples--who at the time were sinners--were capable of being perfect (and we know that they were because Lord Jesus told them that they would be as He taught them), then Lord Jesus--who knew no sin, committed no sin, and was without sin--had to be perfect.
Besides, Lord Jesus is the sinless Son of God, so since His Father is perfect, so is He.