Middle Earth vs. Westeros vs. Narnia

Started by Epicurus13 pages

Originally posted by quanchi112
We do not see them so they cannot be used in such a manner.

Not really. Unless you think that Robb Stark and the Tywin Lannister lie every time they talk about fielding troops numbering in several tens of thousands just to fight a localized civil war, then we oucan use it in such a manner. Not to mention the immense size of the Dothraki hordes under Khal Drogo's command alone.

Tell me, do you think Tywin Lannister is a liar?

Originally posted by Nephthys
With what? Her big ol' ass?

Wildfire is magic anyway, not even water puts it out. Only large quantities of sand.

She is magical and has put out fire before. She covered the entire land in never ending winter for crying out loud. Her magic craps on the dwarfs secret weapon.

Originally posted by Epicurus
Not really. Unless you think that Robb Stark and the Tywin Lannister lie every time they talk about fielding troops numbering in several tens of thousands just to fight a localized civil war, then we oucan use it in such a manner. Not to mention the immense size of the Dothraki hordes under Khal Drogo's command alone.

Tell me, do you think Tywin Lannister is a liar?

Since you cried they are allowed. It changes nothing and they still lose.

Do you disagree ?

Originally posted by BloodRain
And Westeros? IIRC the show so far has only shown two dozen Walkers and 3 teen dragons?

The actual Walkers have only been shown in handfuls. The zombified ice corpses do number in the dozens though. Also, saying those are teen dragons is an overstatement imo.

Originally posted by quanchi112
She is magical and has put out fire before. She covered the entire land in never ending winter for crying out loud. Her magic craps on the dwarfs secret weapon.

When did she put out fire?

Oh snap, I forgot about the Dothraki. Add 40,000 screamers on there. Westeros has 250,000.

Originally posted by Nephthys
When did she put out fire?

Oh snap, I forgot about the Dothraki. Add 40,000 screamers on there. Westeros has 250,000.

In the first film.

No shit.

Originally posted by Nephthys
No shit.
Then why ask a question you already know the answer to.

I meant what scene specifically. When in the first movie did she do it.

Also I forgot about the wildlings and the watch as well as Daenerys' new mercenary forces. Add another 50,000.

300,000. Westeros is stacked.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I meant what scene specifically. When in the first movie did she do it.

Also I forgot about the wildlings and the watch as well as Daenerys' new mercenary forces. Add another 50,000.

300,000. Westeros is stacked.

Do you believe Westeros wins ?

Around 1:25 she puts out the Phoenix fire.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dRaRhAWI85o

I think its between Westeros and Middle Earth. Westeros has the numbers and the better leadership, but ME has crazy supernatural monsters and stuff.

That fire was pretty tiny. Nothing compared to the wildfire.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I think its between Westeros and Middle Earth. Westeros has the numbers and the better leadership, but ME has crazy supernatural monsters and stuff.

That fire was pretty tiny. Nothing compared to the wildfire.

The fire was very long and her magic effortlessly put it out. I backed my claim.

She puts out the wild fire. Phoenix fire is magical as well.

Narnia would crush Westeros as well. Supernatural creatures and magic me thinks.

Wildfire is still a hell of a lot bigger and much harder to put out. Its burns even steel.

Those supernatural creatures and magicians wouldn't last a single volley from 40,000 Dothraki horse archers. Your link shows the Witches forces getting mowed down by arrow fire. It would be easy considering the sheer quantity of arrows.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Wildfire is still a hell of a lot bigger and much harder to put out. Its burns even steel.

Those supernatural creatures and magicians wouldn't last a single volley from 40,000 Dothraki horse archers. You're link shows the Witches forces getting mowed down by arrow fire. It would be easy considering the sheer quantity of arrows.

How do you know ? That was Phoenix fire she put out. Wildfire is something in a weaker universe such as Westeros.

Dragon, armies, vastly powerful magic, etc.

There isn't just one movie here.

Originally posted by quanchi112
How do you know ? That was Phoenix fire she put out. Wildfire is something in a weaker universe such as Westeros.

Dragon, armies, vastly powerful magic, etc.

There isn't just one movie here.

Feats for Phoenix fire?

Originally posted by The Scenario
Feats for Phoenix fire?
Halted an entire supernatural army. Did you not watch the clip ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
How do you know ? That was Phoenix fire she put out. Wildfire is something in a weaker universe such as Westeros.

Dragon, armies, vastly powerful magic, etc.

There isn't just one movie here.

I don't *know*, but we can only go by what is shown. Wildfire is shown to be extremely destructive and difficult to put out. Phoenix fire has shown nothing. It drew a line in the grass. Whoopii.

The combined forces of all the Narnia movies gets stomped.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Halted an entire supernatural army. Did you not watch the clip ?

And is that it? It burned basically nothing but grass and some flesh. That some monsters didn't want to get burned isn't a feat.

So you have nothing.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Seems that way, but it also depends on what period we're discussing it from. If it's all beings in Middle Earth the later in the series we discuss the harder it becomes. At the end of LoTR Sauron is crippled, Smaug is gone, I'm not sure any Balrogs remains, the Wizards are reduced save perhaps Gandalf, the undead army is dispersed, and most armies have been completely decimated from war.

I'm not going to comment on who would win in any definitive way, though, because this is restricted to the movies and I can't recall much from the Narnia movies and have not seen Game of Thrones.

I was under the impression that we used the most recent setting shown in the movies. For instance, lotr gets the Nazgul, Sauron, Gandalf, the Orcs (shown at Minas Tirith), Rohan (at Minas Tirith), Gondor, Elves (helms Deep), dwarves (I suspect we will see a army in the third Hobbit movie), but not Smaug (not part of a army) same goes for the Balrog, they get the ents though and the Uruk Hai and Saruman. Westeros doesn't get the dragons because Daenerys isn't a part of them, hence they don't get any of the Dothraki as well. I'm also highly skeptical about Narnia getting Aslan as he isn't a part of a army. But that is just my take.

We can ofcause just take the armies shown in the movies and combine them all. To that I just say watch the first part of the Lotr movie and weep for Westeros.

Originally posted by Nephthys
The weakest, but likely the largest. Altogether Westeros can field about 210,000 men (Stark - 40,000 Lannister - 60,000 Baratheon - 100,000 Daenerys - 8,000).
Daenerys isn't in Westeros.

Nor are the Dothraki or the Wildlings, though at least the Wildlings are directly adjacent.

Come on man.