Balrog (Durin's Bane) vs Hogwarts

Originally posted by quanchi112
You didn't understand it.

He was killed. He felt pain also so he clearly lived. It feels pain and can die just like spiders and humans. Humans don't have all those legs either and vast differences in biology but it worked on them as well.

He screams out in pain.

Crucio or in rage stomp being attacked in all areas as some slow acting brick.

Crucio wins. The Balrog is overrated especially when trying to take on Hogwarts.

No, Quanchi. I understood it for the nonsense distraction statement it was. We have a grasp of the limits/abilities/concept of fire. We don't for the Balrog in the same manner, since it's fictional 🙂

Amazing train of thought there, buddy. Spiders have a nervous system that is similar to people and other vertebrates, though somewhat simpler. Now prove a Balrog which is made of rock, fire and shadow has the same? Prove it.

Yet to prove Crucio would work.

Yeah, blasting it apart, as stated 🙂

Originally posted by Robtard
No, Quanchi. I understood it for the nonsense distraction statement it was. We have a grasp of the limits/abilities/concept of fire. We don't for the Balrog in the same manner, since it's fictional 🙂

Amazing train of thought. Spider's have a nervous system that is similar to people and other vertebrates, though somewhat simplier. Now prove a Balrog which is made of rock, fire and shadow has the same?

Their biologist are still different which is the point. I don't have to since the Balrog feels pain and can die just like spider and human.

Crucio.

🙂

Originally posted by quanchi112
We know it feels pain and can die just like the spider and the human. All of their biologists are different,

Their biologist are still different which is the point. I don't have to since the Balrog feels pain and can die just like spider and human.

Crucio.

🙂

So a body composed of rock, fire and shadow are similar to person's and spider's bodies. Amazing.

So you can't prove it.

Nope. As stated above. Blasting it apart would be the best bet.

Originally posted by Robtard
So a body composed of rock, fire and shadow are similar people and spiders bodies. Amazing.

So you can't prove it.

Nope. As stated above. Blasting it apart would be the best bet.

Your claim.

I can prove it works on those who feel pain and can die.

They can take their pick. It gets destroyed. This is a land of wizards not of orcs.

Your argument is that since a human and a spider aren't exactly identical from a biological standpoint, Crucio will then work on a Balrog because it's different as well. Which ignores the obvious that while different, a human and a spider are far more similar to each other than a fictional being made of rock, fire and shadow. Unless you imagine flames coming out of your eyes and ears as normal?

All you can do is make no limit fallacies here.

I'll take you riding my coattails now on the Balrog being blasted apart as a compliment. Thanks!

Originally posted by Robtard
Your argument is that since a human and a spider aren't exactly identical from a biological standpoint, Crucio will then work on a Balrog because it's different as well. Which ignores the obvious that while different, a human and a spider are far more similar to each other than a fictional being made of rock, fire and shadow. Unless you imagine flames coming out of your eyes and ears as normal?

All you can do is make no limit fallacies here.

I'll take you riding my coattails now on the Balrog being blasted apart as a compliment. Thanks!

What I can prove is all three feel pain and can die. You can't prove anything just speculate.

I listed various spells in which can be used to defeat the Balrog but Crucio is all that is needed.

Threadstarter ruled out Ak. Even trying to take away from Potter wizards they still bury the Balrog.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It does not matter as you can't prove the biological differences matter.

What I can prove is all three feel pain and can die. You can't prove anything just speculate.

I listed various spells in which can be used to defeat the Balrog but Crucio is all that is needed.

Threadstarter ruled out Ak. Even trying to take away from Potter wizards they still bury the Balrog.

Just like someone can prove that having some manner of mind/thinking means Xavier can control them unless they're a vastly powerful telepath as well, regardless of what they are. No Limit Fallacies a plenty.

It's not for me to disprove your fallacy. It wrecks itself.

Meh, no one probably paid attention.

Originally posted by Robtard
Just like someone can prove that having some manner of mind/thinking means Xavier can control them unless they're a vastly powerful telepath as well, regardless of what they are. No Limit Fallacies a plenty.

It's not for me to disprove your fallacy. It wrecks itself.

Meh, no one probably paid attention.

Again, I just proved the Balrog has things in common with the examples. You haven't proven anything.

You then pretend it is a no limits when it is a case of no resistance showings for the Balrog.

You have no evidence at all. I do.

You're a terribly inept man.

Yep, as "common" to a person and a spider:

I don't need to prove anything, you're the one making silly baseless claims.

Everyone laughs at you, not with 🙁

Anyhow, Balrog most likely goes down to being blasted apart. Just deal and move on. It'll be for the best.

Originally posted by Robtard
Yep, as "common" to a person and a spider:

I don't need to prove anything, you're the one making silly baseless claims.

Everyone laughs at you, not with 🙁

Anyhow, Balrog most likely goes down to being blasted apart. Just deal and move on. It'll be for the best.

You said it won't work when that isn't how debates work. Crucio works on living beings who feel pain.

Do you know how debating works. Prove it won't work.

Crucio or in a handful of manners does it go down. 🙂

Is the Slytherin Basilisk alive in this scenario? Because short of that, I doubt Hogwarts has anything to overwhelm the Balrog. They could probably seal it off or put up that super-barrier shown in DH2, but I doubt that any of the teachers would be able to put it down in a direct fight.

😂

I can't stop laughing at the ignorance in this thread.

Originally posted by quanchi112
😂

I can't stop laughing at the ignorance in this thread.

Originally posted by Estacado
And people cant stop laughing at you.🙂

Originally posted by quanchi112
You are the same guy who claimed Snape was a loyal Deatheater at one point. You're simple and from a village so it is to be expected.

Originally posted by Estacado
I already admited I remembered wrong.
Its still better then being the clown of every forum.🙂

But keep on thinking Snape was an evil Deatheater.

I'm still waiting to see how crucio can be proven to work.

Emphasis on the word "proven", and not opinionated claims.

Originally posted by Estacado
I already admited I remembered wrong.
Its still better then being the clown of every forum.🙂

Why would you do that, As Snape was a loyal DE at first...Remember, Snape didn't switch sides until after he told Voldemort about the prophecy.

Originally posted by Impediment
I'm still waiting to see how crucio can be proven to work.

Emphasis on the word "proven", and not opinionated claims.

Originally posted by Impediment
I'm still waiting to see how crucio can be proven to work.

Emphasis on the word "proven", and not opinionated claims.

I'm waiting for proof on how crucio won't work. This is like saying Legolas is immune to bullets since no elven creature have ever been shown to be harmed by bullets. This is reverse thinking. It should be, until Legolas proves he is bulletproof then he is considered vulnerable. Same with the Balrog.

Crucio is not a physical manifestation of pain or injury. It's magical and psychological. The Balrog CAN feel pain, and it has been proven to be vulnerable to magic since Gandalf did defeat it with magic. So why won't crucio work on it? Because it is made of rocks? That's some real shallow reasoning there.

Besides, it's not just crucio. Hogwartz can throw a whole lot of immobilization spells at it. And now people are going to tell me "prove that immobilization spells work". And I say, prove that immobilization spells don't work.