Originally posted by quanchi112Sirius had just been killed and you don't think he meant to harm her? It didn't work because righteous Anger doesn't work for the curse, but if that's not enough for you.
Harry didn't intend that kind of harm so he didn't do the spell correctly. What don't you get ?
"You need to mean them, Potter! You need to really want to cause pain ... to enjoy it ... righteous anger won't hurt me for long ... I'll show you how it is done, shall I? I'll give you a lesson -" —Bellatrix Lestrange to Harry Potter.
Originally posted by thanos-primeHarry didn't mean it hence it didn't work. He didn't do it correctly. You have to mean it. Plain English ftw.
Sirius had just been killed and you don't think he meant to harm her? It didn't work because righteous Anger doesn't work for the curse, but if that's not enough for you."You need to mean them, Potter! You need to really want to cause pain ... to enjoy it ... righteous anger won't hurt me for long ... I'll show you how it is done, shall I? I'll give you a lesson -" —Bellatrix Lestrange to Harry Potter.
Originally posted by FrothByteNo one in Hogwarts will willingly cast crucio under most circumstances, get off it. 👆
I'm waiting for proof on how crucio won't work. This is like saying Legolas is immune to bullets since no elven creature have ever been shown to be harmed by bullets. This is reverse thinking. It should be, until Legolas proves he is bulletproof then he is considered vulnerable. Same with the Balrog.Crucio is not a physical manifestation of pain or injury. It's magical and psychological. The Balrog CAN feel pain, and it has been proven to be vulnerable to magic since Gandalf did defeat it with magic. So why won't crucio work on it? Because it is made of rocks? That's some real shallow reasoning there.
Besides, it's not just crucio. Hogwartz can throw a whole lot of immobilization spells at it. And now people are going to tell me "prove that immobilization spells work". And I say, prove that immobilization spells don't work.
Crucio has never affected anything bigger or stronger than a human being. 👆
Originally posted by FrothByte
I'm waiting for proof on how crucio won't work. This is like saying Legolas is immune to bullets since no elven creature have ever been shown to be harmed by bullets. This is reverse thinking. It should be, until Legolas proves he is bulletproof then he is considered vulnerable. Same with the Balrog.
Not really a good analogy. We know elves can be hurt by arrows, blades and such, so it stands to reason a bullet would harm them.
So insisting that any and all spells would work on a Balrog who is utterly alien to the subjects some of the spells worked on is using a no limits fallacy.
ie we can conclude that those blast which made small craters in stone that the Death Eaters like to use would likely work on the Balrog, since it's a rock-like being that crumbled when it was destroyed.
Originally posted by NemeBroIt has nothing to do with size or strength. It is this ridiculous video game versus mentality.
No one in Hogwarts will willingly cast crucio under most circumstances, get off it. 👆Crucio has never affected anything bigger or stronger than a human being. 👆
Power defeats all.
Silliness.