Count Dooku and Asajj Ventress vs. Darth Maul and Savage Opress

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Count Dooku and Asajj Ventress vs. Darth Maul and Savage Opress

What team would win in a battle to the death?

Setting: Felucia

Team 1.

Team 1.

Both teams have an equal chance of winning.

Team 1 dominates. On Felucia Dooku can quite possibly solo.

Originally posted by Lord Stark
Team 1 dominates.

Not at all.

Originally posted by Lord Stark
On Felucia Dooku can quite possibly solo.

How so?

Originally posted by Intrepid37
Not at all.

How so?

He could TK Savage and crush him beneath a tree similar to how he TK'ed Kenobi on the Invisible Hand. The only reason his showing was so poor against Ventress and Savage was it was a close quarters environment with no room for maneuverability. The Count thrives in a place where his superior TK can shine. Not to mention the guy has a better track record for defeating multiple opponents than anyone in the mythos. Not to mention its a Dark Side nexus. On a Dark Side nexus Dooku crushed Ventress with a finger.

Originally posted by Lord Stark
He could TK Savage and crush him beneath a tree similar to how he TK'ed Kenobi on the Invisible Hand.

Unlikely, given Savage's TK feats.

Originally posted by Lord Stark
On a Dark Side nexus Dooku crushed Ventress with a finger.

Savage and especially Maul are quite a bit more powerful than Ventress.

Originally posted by Intrepid37
Unlikely, given Savage's TK feats.

Savage has been shown to be susceptible to the Count's force powers.


Savage and especially Maul are quite a bit more powerful than Ventress.

They are all on a similar level, especially Savage and Ventress. Dooku is on another level. As I said, Dooku's only other performance on a Dark Side nexus had him wounding Yoda and crushing Ventress with a finger. Felucia is a considerable nexus, and I do believe Savage will be easily dismissed by the Count.

Originally posted by Lord Stark
Savage has been shown to be susceptible to the Count's force powers.

When?

Originally posted by Lord Stark
They are all on a similar level, especially Savage and Ventress.

Hardly. Savage is a good bit more powerful than Ventress; his feats attest as much, from moving starships to obliterating several droids etc.

Originally posted by Lord Stark
Dooku is on another level.

Maul is a comparable telekinetic.

Originally posted by Lord Stark
Dooku's only other performance on a Dark Side nexus had him wounding Yoda

Which came from a distraction.

Originally posted by Lord Stark
I do believe Savage will be easily dismissed by the Count.

Savage's powers would be boosted by the energies on Felucia in return.

Read Dark Rendezvous. Dooku on a Nexus made Ventress a puppy in comparison. In any case, team 2 couldn't wipe out dual bladed Obi. Team 1 is simply too much for them.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Read Dark Rendezvous.

I have. A nice read indeed.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Dooku on a Nexus made Ventress a puppy in comparison.

The brothers are vastly more powerful than Ventress on a dark side nexus. Not to mention that there's two of them.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
In any case, team 2 couldn't wipe out dual bladed Obi. Team 1 is simply too much for them.

Which owed to the circumstances and environment.

But neither destroyed him with tight coordination, overwhelming TK, or LOLlightning.

In any case, Dooku made Savage his ***** with the Force, and Maul couldn't kill Ventress before Savage was slain.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
But neither destroyed him with tight coordination, overwhelming TK, or LOLlightning.

Maul nearly choked the life out of Obi-Wan in Sith Hunters, actually.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
In any case, Dooku made Savage his ***** with the Force,

With lightning, which Maul has encountered before.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
and Maul couldn't kill Ventress before Savage was slain.

When has Maul fought Ventress?

Originally posted by Lord Stark
Savage has been shown to be susceptible to the Count's force powers.

Originally posted by Intrepid37
When?

Here at 00:30

http://starwars.com/explore/encyclopedia/characters/dooku/#!/media

And several times here:

http://starwars.com/explore/encyclopedia/characters/dooku/#!/media

EDIT- That didn't quite work as I planned. If you go to video/images on that link, then the first video I tried to post was the "Training Savage Opress" and the second video was supposed to be "Dooku vs his Apprentices"

Most of that is the case of lightning. We were specifically talking TK, of which I see only one instance.

On another note, I like how Dooku was floored and his shoto deactivated but he wasn't rendered unconscious.

Originally posted by Intrepid37
Most of that is the case of lightning. We were specifically talking TK, of which I see only one instance.

But that one instance was a tooling. So I think that's enough. Not to mention the pillar lifting training. Whilst Opress struggled to lift 2 of those pillars, the Count lifted a Dozen or so with complete ease. So Dooku was clearly well above Opress in TK.

Originally posted by Intrepid37
On another note, I like how Dooku was floored and his shoto deactivated but he wasn't rendered unconscious.

😂

You know he will just shout out some "Different mediums favor my argument " crap.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
But that one instance was a tooling.

In Savage's first session where he hadn't yet learned how to use his strength and power properly.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Not to mention the pillar lifting training. Whilst Opress struggled to lift 2 of those pillars, the Count lifted a Dozen or so with complete ease. So Dooku was clearly well above Opress in TK.

Is Dooku a more powerful telekinetic than Opress? Sure. But he never used telekinesis on Savage or anyone roughly equal to him in power, such as Mace. Not to mention the fact that Maul is here as well; incapacitating either with TK would be almost impossible.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
😂

You know he will just shout out some "Different mediums favor my argument " crap.


With our combined powers, his defeat was inevitable.

Imo

Maul > Dooku
Savage > Ventress

Team 2 wins, and it's been said before that Team 2 would win. I don't know why everyone suddenly got ignorant of the decision made on such a battle, that Team 2 would lose, when it's already been decided countless times that Team 2 would win.

Originally posted by Taay'hai
Maul > Dooku

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