Doomsday vs Thor

You did not address everything, and you barely addressed anything at all. You ignored the entire post to get to your two scenarios and acted like that's all that could exist. And then you blatantly said you wanted to cut to the chase and end this unnecessary writing.

I've already refuted everything you've stated though. And you are still ignoring 3/4's of what I say in every post. Even in this post you are still ignoring the fact that going ENTIRELY BY YOUR LOGIC the missiles are way less durable than Henshaw. And you've repeatedly ignored this throughout. It's blatant hypocrisy and you won't even pretend you previous stated this.

Thank you for giving me a reason to report you. 👆

But the missiles aren't even close, though, that's the problem. The fact that they got destroyed by something that would harmlessly bounce off Cap's shield shows they were nowhere close. The fact that Henshaw almost tanked an attack twice as powerful a page or so later proves they are nowhere near Cap's shield.

But you are trolling. You troll every thread. That's all you do. You choose to go against what the majority says in an effort to piss off everyone in every single thread.
And it isn't a simple case of saying something is more durable. It's you saying missile casings that have only one showing is more durable... that got utterly vaporised by an attack Cyborg tanked is trolling.

But sure, you want a feat of a being at least twice as strong as Superman? Especially that Superman? From a guy who's both halves were destroying reality?
http://i44.tinypic.com/fut4zc.jpg

But Cyborg did tank an attack greater than what the missiles took. And you keep ignoring why. You are blatantly ignoring it here as well. Your own logic says Henshaw is more durable. Everything about what you previously stated points to you thinking Henshaw would be more durable. You completely changed your argument on a dime.

And all Superman did was try and slow them down, while only hitting them with HV once, and a punch once. HV didn't work because it was apparently colder than re-entry (high end Superman apparently), and one punch didn't work.
And I've repeatedly posted one punch from Superman not doing much against Cyborg who just got hit with the Omega Beams:
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/HaCsAHunter-Prey-02-42.jpg

And here's Cyborg taking a full on attack from Superman when Superman wasn't being pushed back by a rocket and it causing no visible damage:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/235/superman108p12st7.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/235/superman108p13jg5.jpg/

And all Superman said was that it was too tough to punch through, not to damage when he hit it one single time while being pushed back by the rocket:
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/HaCsAHunter-Prey-02-37.jpg

A punch when Superman is flying at you >>> a punch where Superman is being pushed back.

Cyborg has the same feats as the missiles. And he took the OB's better than them when they were twice as powerful. There is no possibility that Cyborg is not more durable. Both Cyborg and the missiles can take one attack from Superman without much damage. That doesn't mean much.

Cyborg >>> the missiles. Cyborg <<<<< Cap's shield

And also your previous logic of THOUSANDS OF TIMES. Like Jesus, way to completely drop that point when it doesn't favor your position anymore.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I honestly don't remember but I can definitely think of some comics where he's fired off continuous Omega Beams or even twice in a row without being weakened.

But this is all moot. Wasn't it pointed out that Darkseid was continually regaining his strength after the Doomsday beating? Then Cyborg Superman wasn't hit with only two beams, they packed more power.

So apparently Darkseid was strong, weakened himself, and then got to full power 5 pages later...

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
He said he was at full power exactly 5 pages after he fired on Henshaw. 3 pages after it hit Henshaw.

So apparently Darkseid was strong, weakened himself, and then got to full power 5 pages later...

Lol.

Then yea, this is open and shut.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Lol.

Then yea, this is open and shut.

Originally posted by Originally posted by h1a8
To vaporize something vs. just damage it a little requires more than hundreds of thousands of times more power. The OB was at less than half power. So that implies it is more than millions of times more powerful than Superman in that arc.

Originally posted by Originally posted by h1a8
Why won't it? At less than half power it vaporized two giant objects that Superman couldn't put a scratch on. Thus the OB shown was more than a million times more power than Superman himself. Is the shield a million times more powerful than Superman? Hell no!

Originally posted by Originally posted by h1a8
I know Henshaw isn't as durable as Cap's shield.

Which means he thinks Darkseid would have to be weakened thousands (millions) of times to only damage Henshaw a little and for the missiles to be more durable than Henshaw, and for the missiles to be what he believes more durable than Cap's Shield. But he's willing to sacrifice his argument and say they're only a little less durable than Cap's Shield.

But he certainly wants to drop that point entirely...

We're also supposed to take that showing in a vacuum and pretend stuff like this doesn't exist:

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd247/kjs1982/Astro-Harness/AstroForceBlocksOmegaBeams1.jpg

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/6/67877/1913132-jla185_24.jpg

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/228/takingomegabeams6thoy8.jpg
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/7701/takingomegabeams29nanh6.jpg
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/1788/takingomegabeams37fizd5.jpg
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/4177/takingomegabeams44rgcj7.jpg
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/5721/takingomegabeams51xlqs4.jpg

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/3/33308/1529972-pis.jpg

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/0/2532/990736-supermanbatman01328jq.jpg

ETC.

Superman is a millions times more durable/powerful than Superman apparently.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
You did not address everything, and you barely addressed anything at all. You ignored the entire post to get to your two scenarios and acted like that's all that could exist. And then you blatantly said you wanted to cut to the chase and end this unnecessary writing.

I've already refuted everything you've stated though. And you are still ignoring 3/4's of what I say in every post. Even in this post you are still ignoring the fact that going ENTIRELY BY YOUR LOGIC the missiles are way less durable than Henshaw. And you've repeatedly ignored this throughout. It's blatant hypocrisy and you won't even pretend you previous stated this.

Thank you for giving me a reason to report you. 👆

How, by my logic, are the missiles way less durable than Henshaw when I'm arguing that the beams that hit henshaw were less in power? You keep repeating that without understanding me.

But the missiles aren't even close, though, that's the problem. The fact that they got destroyed by something that would harmlessly bounce off Cap's shield shows they were nowhere close. The fact that Henshaw almost tanked an attack twice as powerful a page or so later proves they are nowhere near Cap's shield.

But sure, you want a feat of a being at least twice as strong as Superman? Especially that Superman? From a guy who's both halves were destroying reality?
http://i44.tinypic.com/fut4zc.jpg

Inbetweener? Please give more details. What are his strength feats?

But Cyborg did tank an attack greater than what the missiles took. And you keep ignoring why. You are blatantly ignoring it here as well. Your own logic says Henshaw is more durable. Everything about what you previously stated points to you thinking Henshaw would be more durable. You completely changed your argument on a dime.

And all Superman did was try and slow them down, while only hitting them with HV once, and a punch once. HV didn't work because it was apparently colder than re-entry (high end Superman apparently), and one punch didn't work.
And I've repeatedly posted one punch from Superman not doing much against Cyborg who just got hit with the Omega Beams:
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/HaCsAHunter-Prey-02-42.jpg

And here's Cyborg taking a full on attack from Superman when Superman wasn't being pushed back by a rocket and it causing no visible damage:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/235/superman108p12st7.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/235/superman108p13jg5.jpg/

And all Superman said was that it was too tough to punch through, not to damage when he hit it one single time while being pushed back by the rocket:
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/HaCsAHunter-Prey-02-37.jpg

A punch when Superman is flying at you >>> a punch where Superman is being pushed back.

Cyborg has the same feats as the missiles. And he took the OB's better than them when they were twice as powerful. There is no possibility that Cyborg is not more durable. Both Cyborg and the missiles can take one attack from Superman without much damage. That doesn't mean much.

Cyborg >>> the missiles. Cyborg <<<<< Cap's shield

My original point was that the missiles were in the vicinity as Cap's shield in durability. You actually helped me prove that arguing the blunt durability of Cyborg. Superman can tear through tank steel like tissue paper, through titanium alloy like it's nothing, etc. But couldn't damage the missiles with a single non holding back punch? That means the missiles were above Superman's durability to some degree, even if it was just one punch. Being above Superman in durability automatically places an object at least in the vicinity of Cap's shield but not necessarily equal or above the shield.
IMO, I would say that Cap's shield is at most 2x more durable than the missiles in blunt force.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I honestly don't remember but I can definitely think of some comics where he's fired off continuous Omega Beams or even twice in a row without being weakened.

But this is all moot. Wasn't it pointed out that Darkseid was continually regaining his strength after the Doomsday beating? Then Cyborg Superman wasn't hit with only two beams, they packed more power.

It wasn't mentioned that at all.
The final attack on Cyborg was definitely more powerful than the initial attack. But me and Bran is debating whether the initial attack on Cyborg packed more or equal power than the attack on the missiles.

This will be my last post on the subject since it's utterly retarded.
3 pages where something gets evaporated by something that would harmlessly bounce of Cap's shield makes it almost as durable as Cap's shield.

This is the type of shit we're supposed to just swallow. Anyway, back to not clicking your posts after this. A happier time.

Originally posted by h1a8
How, by my logic, are the missiles way less durable than Henshaw when I'm arguing that the beams that hit henshaw were less in power? You keep repeating that without understanding me.

If this were me claiming this you wouldn't accept the slightest bit of it without a scan, yet all you're doing is claiming things when all the proof goes against it.

And that's not all:

Because you've repeatedly claimed the OB's he fired on the missiles were at half power because they were split. Which would mean Darkseid would have to have his power cut in half to fire with the same force as he did against Henshaw as he did against each individual rocket.
You know, because he hit Henshaw with BOTH of the beams?

And last of all, because you've claimed that to vaporise something as opposed to just damage it would require thousands of times the force it would be to simply damage something. So even if Darkseid was weakened by half, Henshaw would still be seen as well above the missiles in durability seeing as he "tanked" an attack that was "millions of times Superman" in the comic, while the missiles got vaporised at half the power.

You're trolling right now, plain and simple. Everything you have previously said when you were pumping the rockets up that appeared in comics for three pages goes completely against the missiles being more durable than Henshaw. And now that Henshaw was brought up, you completely dropped all your logic. Now it no longer takes thousands to millions of times more force to vaporise something than it does to damage something? Which as you're well aware would make Henshaw the same amount more durable than the rockets.

You have no point at all. And that's before everything you've previously said about the rockets when Henshaw wasn't factored in.

Henshaw took an attack twice as powerful as the rockets took. Fact. You claiming he didn't means nothing at all.

Originally posted by h1a8
You are begging the question here, assuming the beams that hit Henshaw is more powerful than the one that hit the missiles. Let's assume this. So Superman couldn't damage the missiles using all of his might. And Henshaw tanked an attack that destroyed the missiles. Thus Superman can't damage Cyborg using all of his might. This is a contradiction and thus a logical impossibility. Thus the assumption is wrong and the beams that hit Henshaw wasn't as powerful as the ones that his the missiles.

Except Henshaw could probably tank like 10 of the punches in a row that Superman threw at the missiles before he started feeling it. Same with the tiny blasts of possible HV. Hell, Bryne Superman could probably destroy those missiles if they were on the ground and not forcing him back if he threw more than one punch.

But 😂 at your logic that it doesn't count. You don't like it, it doesn't count in other words.

Originally posted by h1a8
Inbetweener? Please give more details. What are his strength feats?

But yes, ask for feats when maintaining the position that Darkseid was weakened after firing on the rockets based on absolutely no on panel proof.

Originally posted by h1a8

Able to withstand re-entry heat doesn't prove the minimum heat the missiles can withstand.
But now you are debating. What took you so long? You accuse someone of trolling when you are not supporting your position well. I don't argue against clear logic. So you thus showed that Henshaw is durable enough to withstand punches from Superman (although Superman punched chips from him) without being much damaged and is possibly as durable against blunt force as those missiles. But what about HV? Superman damaged him with HV though and thus my point still holds

Considering you have contradicted yourself at numerous turns, and have dropped all previous logic while having no proof, I don't think you have an idea what debating actually is.

I've completely ripped your point to shreds multiple times. You aren't even supporting your stance at all besides saying "nuh uh", so spare me the talk of supporting stances.

But your points up to this point have never been about HV. It's only been about strength. Let's talk about supporting stances, shall we?

Originally posted by h1a8
[B]Why won't it? At less than half power it vaporized two giant objects that Superman couldn't put a scratch on. Thus the OB shown was more than a million times more power than Superman himself. Is the shield a million times more powerful than Superman? Hell no!

Originally posted by h1a8
[B] Yet the shield has never tanked physical attacks twice as powerful as Superman. If it did then you debate by giving feats of shit the shield tanked. There are literally thousands of comics. 99.999% of the world haven't read them all. Trolling is knowing the obvious truth and still arguing against it.

But yes, shift your entire argument to Superman's HV at the time, because that was so impressive. It wasn't even above the heat of re-entry in that comic. Color me impressed that it would be relevant in a topic about Cap's shield.

Originally posted by h1a8
I agree a punch from Superman flying at you is more powerful than a punch going backwards. But Superman can still punch while going backwards through tank armor steel like it is made of tissue paper. But I don't see any damage done to the missiles by his punch. In the next page the panel shows no damage. But it doesn't matter as I said above that Cyborg could possibly have equal or greater durability against blunt force as the missiles. I don't have a problem with that. Using a different comic huh? That's cool. But in the HP comic Superman actually damaged Cyborg with HV. Anyway I covered this above already.

My original point was that the missiles were in the vicinity as Cap's shield in durability. You actually helped me prove that arguing the blunt durability of Cyborg. Superman can tear through tank steel like tissue paper, through titanium alloy like it's nothing, etc. But couldn't damage the missiles with a single non holding back punch? That means the missiles were above Superman's durability to some degree, even if it was just one punch. Being above Superman in durability automatically places an object at least in the vicinity of Cap's shield but not necessarily equal or above the shield.
IMO, I would say that Cap's shield is at most 2x more durable than the missiles in blunt force.

If Cyborg has greater blunt force durability than the missiles, then you've defeated your entire point. Jesus Christ. That's all you've been talking about until you rapidly shifted your point. It's only been about Superman's strength. ONLY.

Superman damaged Cyborg right after he got hit by the Omega Beams. You must value the Omega Beams less than you think if you figure the attack value doesn't stack. And this was actually a huge blast of HV as opposed to the HV he possibly fired against the rockets.

Also, uh yes, I'm using a different comic. If your logic is applicable to rockets because of a weak punch Superman threw, then it's also applicable to haymaker flying punches from Superman. In fact you even reinforce that in this very post as you defend taking Superman's punches as some sort of indication as being about Cap's shield level.
I don't give a shit about different comics contrary to whatever the hell type of logic you're pushing. And the fact that I've proven what you're saying as made up, I see no harm actually using comic history. Boo hoo if you don't read comics, and boo hoo if I goes against your half baked ideas.

They are not because Cyborg Superman is way more durable, and they've only withstood two attacks and then got destroyed by half the power of something Hank ****ing Henshaw withstood.

I still fail to see your point with Superman destroying metals that get destroyed constantly in the real world. That in no way helps your point as much as you think it does. Tell me more about Superman punching through tanks though.

No where in those pages was Superman stated to be "not holding back" either. And considering he was getting pushed back at rapid speeds, it couldn't have possibly been anywhere near his full strength even if he was going all out.

And taking one punch from Superman doesn't mean you're anywhere near as durable as Superman either. Nor was that Superman anywhere near as durable as Cap's shield either. Jesus Christ. Your amount of logic leaps and blatantly making shit up is astounding.
Also, good job changing your logic again.

But yes, let's use your logic again, and I'm sure you'll love this:
Here is Wonder Woman damaging a way more durable Superman than Bryne Superman which apparently means she damaged something more durable than Cap's Shield?
http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/rr138/fangirl102/Superman_v2_211_2005_Team-DCP_pg13.jpg

With a shield none the less.

We've established WW damaged something that is way more durable than Bryne Superman which is around Cap's shield, but who else?

Here is Bryne level Superman actually stating he's not holding back landing a huge punch on the Creeper and doing no damage:
http://i43.tinypic.com/20uzo8n.jpg

Oops, how'd this get in here?
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/3/32599/1439983-1344606_the_creeper__05_19.jpg

So, WW hits had enough to damage something that at that stage is likely more durable than Cap's shield, and the Creeper is as durable as Superman and is in the vicinity of Cap's shield? What else can we dig up using your logic? Well, let's see.

Here is Superman engaging in a brawl with Kilowog which is doing no damage to Kilowog:
http://i43.tinypic.com/2d0j1xu.jpg
http://i42.tinypic.com/2h3ygw5.jpg

Apparently this would make Kilowog many times more durable than Cap's shield since Supeman was slightly pissed, took quite a few punches, and Superman was vastly more powerful than he was in HP.

Oh yeah, HV. Well, since that apparently means a lot, here's Aquaman taking a blast of HV relatively well from a more powerful Superman. Cap's shield level of durability too?
(Superman was wearing a lead suit which made him immune to K-nite)
http://i41.tinypic.com/6iywar.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/2r4hlj4.jpg

I could go through more. I could go through OWAW where Superman has trouble damaging Imperiex Probes with multiple punches, starts ripping through them, and then goes back to have trouble damaging them. Which goes to show taking one punch from Superman doesn't prove they're more durable than him, and his strength can differ depending on what he puts into them.

And I know what you're thinking. "Buh it wasn't from HP". No, and it doesn't have to be. If your logic is applicable here, then it should be applicable in the next thread. And people that take full on punches from a more powerful Superman should be more durable than taking one punch that wasn't stated to be going all out, and when Superman was on the backfoot.

If a missile is more durable or around the durability of Cap's shield because Superman hit it once, then you better believe a vastly more powerful Superman hitting Kilowog multiple times would have a way better claim to that. But we know that's false, so that's why we don't claim it. Or real people do anyway. Not spambots.

With that said, 2000 and onward Superman would have dismantled both of those missiles without an issue. As indicated by him matching a full powered Darkseid multiple times, and even matching his OBs. Darkseid was vastly more powerful than Superman back then. I have no issues with that. But as proven as time went on the gap got very small if he was even more powerful than Superman at all. But for some reason that's not relevant. We're just supposed to treat a weaker Superman as some sort of God when we know for a fact that he is currently around Darkseid level.

In other words, I've only been toying with your "HP exists in a bubble" idea. It's retarded that we're supposed to forget showings exist where Darkseid shows he can not break Cap's shield. Darkseid was not stronger back then. Darkseid was not as his strongest back then.
3 comic showings are apparently all of Darkseid's appearances. Forget the hundreds of other appearances where he didn't destroy missiles...

Originally posted by h1a8
I remember a scene where DS had to recharge to fire another beam.

Whether or not that has actually occurred, I highly doubt you remember such a scene happening.

Although it's funny you would say such a thing because you're vehemently against bringing up anything from outside HP. Although you also don't like being consistent either considering how many times you changed your mind.

Oh, let's make a recap though of some hilarious contradictions:

You stated taking one punch from Bryne Superman means you're about as durable as Superman which also mean you're about as durable as Cap's shield.
You talked about the shield never taking more than twice the physical attacks than Superman output (though now it's just Superman being as durable as the shield)

You stated Darkseid hit the missiles at half power.
You stated that it takes thousands of more times the power to vaporise something than to simple damage it.
You state Darkseid was millions of times more powerful than Superman a page before he fired on Henshaw
Henshaw survived that first attack just fine.

You stated Cyborg Superman isn't as durable as Cap's shied.
You stated Cyborg Superman is more durable in blunt force than the missiles, or around there
You stated the shield has never taken more than twice the physical force than Superman
You still maintain that the missiles were around as durable as Cap's shield

You stated that other comics don't count except Hunter Prey.
Yet you maintain that Superman was about as durable as Cap's shield and twice his force could break the shield.
But if we're only using Hunter Prey, how could we possibly say anything Superman did was impressive? How is Superman as durable as Cap's Shield based on that series?

You've repeatedly asked for proof.
You have not posted any actual proof, and you maintain that Darkseid was weakened after hitting the missiles... even though it was never stated, and he was at full power 6 pages later.

You keep saying I'm not reading your posts well.
You keep changing and dropping your previous points.

You stated Superman's physical force were what mattered.
You now maintain that his HV which was useless against something that could survive re-entry is now what mattered.

You stated not to use other comics outside HP.
You think it was stated in a comic outside HP that Darkseid needs to recharge after firing his OBs.

There's probably more, but I stopped remembering some of the shit you claimed.

At the end of the day, the rockets appeared in three pages total in the history of comics. They took one blast of HV that was apparently less than the heat of re-entry. They took one punch from Superman rapidly being pushed back. And then they got destroyed by half of the power of Darkeid's OBs.
That is nowhere near enough to prove it's anywhere near the durability of something that has tanked full attacks from Thor, Hulk, and pretty much every other hero in Marvel. And considering Darkseid's attacks have been deflected by less than Cap's shield, it's not a possibility at all.

This should not be a discussion. Especially considering it's a God Damned missile casing that's meant to be destroyed when it blows up. Especially when it got vaporised. Especially when Superman couldn't have been hitting it that hard. Especially when Superman was way weaker than he is now.
3 pages. 3 attacks. It was vaporised by the same attack fragile Hank Henshaw took relatively well.

Simply no.

Ahh. I feel like this thread has finally been cleansed a bit. Well done Bran. 👆

You'd think. But I doubt my posts have any effect.

Anyway, King Thor wins. He's just too big of a brute. Especially now that the guy can fire beams that make Gorr rethink his life while he's propelled light years away

Originally posted by Branlor Swift

Oh, let's make a recap though of some hilarious contradictions:

You stated taking one punch from Bryne Superman means you're about as durable as Superman which also mean you're about as durable as Cap's shield.
You talked about the shield never taking more than twice the [b]physical attacks than Superman output (though now it's just Superman being as durable as the shield)[/b]

And this is where you are trolling by lying on purpose. I never said such things nor implied them. You are twisting my arguments on purpose and this is trolling. Taking a punch "without any damage" from "all of Superman's might" means that an object is "at least in the vicinity" of Cap's shield in blunt force durability. "In the vicinity" could very much mean 50% less as I explained in the last post.

You stated Darkseid hit the missiles at half power.
You stated that it takes thousands of more times the power to vaporise something than to simple damage it.
You state Darkseid was millions of times more powerful than Superman a page before he fired on Henshaw
Henshaw survived that first attack just fine.

Half the power he hit DD with. Yes "at least" thousands of times more power. DS beams was that powerful and not DS himself. Again, I already proven that Henshaw took a lesser power than that the missiles took. This is where you troll again. It's becoming a habit from you.

You stated Cyborg Superman isn't as durable as Cap's shied.
You stated Cyborg Superman is more durable in blunt force than the missiles, or around there
You stated the shield has never taken more than twice the physical force than Superman
You still maintain that the missiles were around as durable as Cap's shield

You stated that other comics don't count except Hunter Prey.
Yet you maintain that Superman was about as durable as Cap's shield and twice his force could break the shield.
But if we're only using Hunter Prey, how could we possibly say anything Superman did was impressive? How is Superman as durable as Cap's Shield based on that series?

More trolling from you.
I didn't say other comics don't count. They count when arguing the power level a character will have in a FORUM FIGHT. They don't count when arguing the power level a character HAD in a PARTICULAR COMIC. You know this, because you have countless times used such logic to show what a character (such as Thanos) was operating at due to what happened in the SAME COMIC.

You've repeatedly asked for proof.
You have not posted any actual proof, and you maintain that Darkseid was weakened after hitting the missiles... even though it was never stated, and he was at full power 6 pages later.

I proved it by showing a contradiction. If you assume something that leads you to a contradiction then the assumption is wrong. This is basic logic.

You keep saying I'm not reading your posts well.
You keep changing and dropping your previous points.

You stated Superman's physical force were what mattered.
You now maintain that his HV which was useless against something that could survive re-entry is now what mattered.

You stated not to use other comics outside HP.
You think it was stated in a comic outside HP that Darkseid needs to recharge after firing his OBs.

There's probably more, but I stopped remembering some of the shit you claimed.

More trolling. I said being able to survive re-entry doesn't proof maximum ability. It proves minimum. Iron man is built to survive re-entry; that isn't the maximum he can take though.

I mentioned the recharge issue to create a plausible reason of why DS could have been weakened after the missiles. The "why" is actually irrelevant since it is true.

At the end of the day, the rockets appeared in three pages total in the history of comics. They took one blast of HV that was apparently less than the heat of re-entry. They took one punch from Superman rapidly being pushed back. And then they got destroyed by half of the power of Darkeid's OBs.
That is nowhere near enough to prove it's anywhere near the durability of something that has tanked full attacks from Thor, Hulk, and pretty much every other hero in Marvel. And considering Darkseid's attacks have been deflected by less than Cap's shield, it's not a possibility at all.

This should not be a discussion. Especially considering it's a God Damned missile casing that's meant to be destroyed when it blows up. Especially when it got vaporised. Especially when Superman couldn't have been hitting it that hard. Especially when Superman was way weaker than he is now.
3 pages. 3 attacks. It was vaporised by the same attack fragile Hank Henshaw took relatively well.

Simply no.

Of course the missiles are meant to be destroyed. I never claimed they were indestructible. Obviously they were powerful enough to destroy the planet. So the power inside of them were sufficient in not only destroying the casing but also the planet itself. And a final troll by you, again Henshaw took a lesser power than the missiles did as I proven.

Guys, please get back to the topic.

KT (and any skyfather level character) obliterates every version of Doomsday....

I believe DD wins by being much faster than KT. I see DD ripping KT to shreds with his protrusions. I see DD healing and adapting to KT's attacks on the fly.

KT wins easily, the guy can destroy Cap's shield with an eye blast and Cap's shield >>>>>Doomsday's durability.

KT, far to brutal and powerful for Doomsday to cope with.

Originally posted by Silent Master
KT wins easily, the guy can destroy Cap's shield with an eye blast and Cap's shield >>>>>Doomsday's durability.

Also, by the logic of Bran, we have those eye beams failing to disintegrate cap's skeleton in the same comic.

Originally posted by h1a8
Durability is a function of thickness. Caps shield is thin but pound for pound more durable than DD, while DD is much thicker and bigger and thus more durable as a whole.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
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Originally posted by h1a8
Durability is a function of thickness. Caps shield is thin but pound for pound more durable than DD, while DD is much thicker and bigger and thus more durable as a whole. KT, at best, damages his top layer of flesh but DD heals and adapts to the blast. And this is if DD doesn't blitz him right away.

Also, by the logic of Bran, we have those eye beams failing to disintegrate cap's skeleton in the same comic.

The above post isn't even close to being true.