The more I think about this, the more I am confident Stark could pull it off. Some of the jet fighters survived the alien dogfight (which is PIS, but if they could, Ironman definitely could, and he would get up there and missle that sensitive spot). does he get there 10/10? No, but I bet he gets the majority. HOWEVER, the drunk cropduster will still get it blown up because he is still in the scenario, so technically we don't even need to worry if Stark can. So let's assume we definitely get past this point.
And concerning him flying--if I remember, all Will Smith had to do was use a steering wheel mostly. Remember how there was a simple "up and down" sticky note put on and at first it was upside down? Not that it was easy, but Stark is the ultimate aeronautical engineer and he has practiced in his suit a lot and would at least understand theory of flight. All he has to do is fly it up into space in a straight line--those things use some type of antigravity it looked like so he doesn't need to have the wings set right or have it going fast enough I wouldn't think. And when he gets there I believe he could have made the virus and all that.
Oh, forgive me if I forgot, but I don't remember the virus doing a whole lot cuz the main mission was to nuke the mothership, not just put a virus in it. The general said that they sent via morse code messages to other countries to tell them how to bring the other big ships down. I believe they still had to fly up and shoot them in that sensitive spot and probably took heavy casualties doing it. The virus may have kept communication down but were we ever led to believe it would keep either the fighter craft or the large craft from functioning with basic manual control? I just figured that it cut ship-to-ship communication and also destroyed the mothership for reinforcements and possibly a trip outta earth.
The more I think about it, all I saw the virus do was (PIS) cause the grip to loosen on David/ Will Smith's fighter ship and let them fly away. We don't even need a virus--Stark just needs to nuke the mother ship. Even if it is a suicide mission.
Originally posted by K-Dog
The more I think about this, the more I am confident Stark could pull it off. Some of the jet fighters survived the alien dogfight (which is PIS, but if they could, Ironman definitely could, and he would get up there and missle that sensitive spot). does he get there 10/10? No, but I bet he gets the majority.
And concerning him flying--if I remember, all Will Smith had to do was use a steering wheel mostly. Remember how there was a simple "up and down" sticky note put on and at first it was upside down? Not that it was easy, but Stark is the ultimate aeronautical engineer and he has practiced in his suit a lot and would at least understand theory of flight. All he has to do is fly it up into space in a straight line--those things use some type of antigravity it looked like so he doesn't need to have the wings set right or have it going fast enough I wouldn't think. And when he gets there I believe he could have made the virus and all that.
Oh, forgive me if I forgot, but I don't remember the virus doing a whole lot cuz the main mission was to nuke the mothership, not just put a virus in it. The general said that they sent via morse code messages to other countries to tell them how to bring the other big ships down. I believe they still had to fly up and shoot them in that sensitive spot and probably took heavy casualties doing it. The virus may have kept communication down but were we ever led to believe it would keep either the fighter craft or the large craft from functioning with basic manual control? I just figured that it cut ship-to-ship communication and also destroyed the mothership for reinforcements and possibly a trip outta earth.The more I think about it, all I saw the virus do was (PIS) cause the grip to loosen on David/ Will Smith's fighter ship and let them fly away. We don't even need a virus--Stark just needs to nuke the mother ship. Even if it is a suicide mission.
He has no ability to reach the mothership by himself, with a suit or even a space shuttle.
Earth is Doomed
Originally posted by Supra
He has no ability to reach the mothership by himself, with a suit or even a space shuttle.Earth is Doomed
Why (sorry if I missed an obvious point you made earlier)? He can just take the captured ship up like they did in the movie, assuming he has the ability or another guy can pilot it. And they are at Area 51, with some of the best test pilots anywhere--test pilots fly anything and everything.
And I bet those alien fighters have a lot of anti-crash protection built in--remember when the engineers removed the supports in the Area 51 hanger, and it's anti-gravity power allowed it to hover a couple of feet off the ground? I bet it would be hard to crash at a very low speed, until a person got the hang of flying it.
Originally posted by Lestov16
But destroying the mothership won't destroy the massive ships still down on Earth.
Correct. They have to be destroyed like the one we saw. The general said they were morse code messaging other parts of the world and the alien ships were coming down. It was all smiles and happiness at the end. We should assume the same thing will happen.
Originally posted by K-Dog
Why (sorry if I missed an obvious point you made earlier)? He can just take the captured ship up like they did in the movie, assuming he has the ability or another guy can pilot it. And they are at Area 51, with some of the best test pilots anywhere--test pilots fly anything and everything.
Read OP, there is no captured ship.
Earth is Doomed
Originally posted by Supra
Read OP, there is no captured ship.Earth is Doomed
I was just assuming that 2 characters were taken out, and Stark was inserted.....and he had access to everything they did....hmm.....
Ok, let me interpret it this way.....he is in it....so are they....he just gets no help from them (like it says). He sits back and sips a few drinks with Miss Potts and watches everybody save earth without having to do anything.
Originally posted by K-Dog
I was just assuming that 2 characters were taken out, and Stark was inserted.....and he had access to everything they did....hmm.....Ok, let me interpret it this way.....he is in it....so are they....he just gets no help from them (like it says). He sits back and sips a few drinks with Miss Potts and watches everybody save earth without having to do anything.
He could not even stop the Chitauri
ID4 Aliens> Chitauri
ID4 aliens also had telepathy and mind control..which we can really get into if this continues.
Originally posted by Silent Master
The OP doesn't ban the captured ship, it just bans him getting help from Will and Jeff's characters.
With his help to them (but not their help to him), the mission is accomplished just as easily if not easier. He can also do it without them as long as he gets the ship. With no ship it can not be done by anyone. Does that cover everything?
Originally posted by Supra
He could not even stop the ChitauriID4 Aliens> Chitauri
ID4 aliens also had telepathy and mind control..which we can really get into if this continues.
Yes, if real life logic and physics and reality were at play instead of PIS, but if those ID4 characters were really able to pull all that BS off, then Stark would be at the same or higher ability.
The dogfight that took down a destroyer ship should have been over in 5 seconds. The motheship should not have accepted a 50-year missing fighter/scout ship. The 1995 MacBook virus would not have taken down an advanced technology. The grips would not have loosened to let them escape with less than a second to spare before the big doors closed. Will Smith would not have punched out an alien.
Originally posted by K-Dog
Yes, if real life logic and physics and reality were at play instead of PIS, but if those ID4 characters were really able to pull all that BS off, then Stark would be at the same or higher ability.
The dogfight that took down a destroyer ship should have been over in 5 seconds. The motheship should not have accepted a 50-year missing fighter/scout ship. The 1995 MacBook virus would not have taken down an advanced technology. The grips would not have loosened to let them escape with less than a second to spare before the big doors closed. Will Smith would not have punched out an alien.
And Jarvis's advanced tech/ai could not shut down the tessaract.
I wonder if Hulk could punch through their shielding like he one-shotted the Chitauri big monster things. That would prove which alien tech is stronger. 🤣
It wouldn't help to try to fly him up to the mothership though: He passed out from last of oxygen at high altitude in the first Hulk, and he is clearly too big to fit in that little scout ship that Stark can't develop a good enough virus to transport in cuz he's not smart enough anyway. 😉
Originally posted by K-Dog
I wonder if Hulk could punch through their shielding like he one-shotted the Chitauri big monster things. That would prove which alien tech is stronger. 🤣It wouldn't help to try to fly him up to the mothership though: He passed out from last of oxygen at high altitude in the first Hulk, and he is clearly too big to fit in that little scout ship that Stark can't develop a good enough virus to transport in cuz he's not smart enough anyway. 😉
Those shields would pwn hulk. Now your really off op