[QUOTE=14579827]Originally posted by SquallX
[B]A few beings that would outright treat him like trash
Primal Monitor= prolly
The Presence=nope
The Great Evil Beast=hmm prolly not
Mandrakk=nope
Cosmic Armor Superman=nope
Mxy =nope
Spectre with full back up from the Presence=nope
Batmite=nope
Original Ion=nope
A few Beings that would give him a challenge. Some would win, while some would lose.
Final Crisis Darkseid with prep=nope
COIE Anti-Monitor=nope
COIE Spectre=nope
Extant with the Worlogog=nope
Emperor Joker=nope
Amazo with the Worlogog=nope
Zero Hour Parallax =nope
Hourman with the Worlogog=nope
If all else fails, Lucifer comes out and manipulate him into being his *****. 😈
nope
Originally posted by SquallX
A few beings that would outright treat him like trashPrimal Monitor
The Presence
The Great Evil Beast
Mandrakk
Cosmic Armor Superman
Mxy
Spectre with full back up from the Presence
Batmite
Original IonA few Beings that would give him a challenge. Some would win, while some would lose.
Final Crisis Darkseid with prep
COIE Anti-Monitor
COIE Spectre
Extant with the Worlogog
Emperor Joker
Amazo with the Worlogog
Zero Hour Parallax
Hourman with the WorlogogIf all else fails, Lucifer comes out and manipulate him into being his *****. 😈
🤣
Mmmmmmm... NO
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Wait, I got something...
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While we can laugh at the nonsense in your scan,
we can also rest in the fact that,
that was all Beyonder writing his own story, making shit interesting for himself.
Shooter, during his final book as "Pre-Retcon" Beyonder,
explained how everything that happened to Beyonder,
every occurrence, positive or negative, was of Beyonder's own making lol.
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This is why Beyonder also stated during his final book:
"No one can possibly kill me without My consent"
Almighty Owen Reece: "You're so powerful ... so infinite"
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So no one ever owned Beyonder, Beyonder owned himself for lulz. stoned
Originally posted by Mr Master
😂 ... That is funny.Here's the next page:
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While we can laugh at the nonsense in your scan,
we can also rest in the fact that,
that was all Beyonder writing his own story, making shit interesting for himself.Shooter, during his final book as "Pre-Retcon" Beyonder,
,
explained how [b]everything that happened to Beyonder
every occurrence, positive or negative, was of Beyonder's own making lol.--------------------------------------------
This is why Beyonder also stated during his final book:
"No one can possibly kill me without My consent"
Almighty Owen Reece: "You're so powerful ... so infinite"
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So no one ever owned Beyonder, Beyonder owned himself for lulz. stoned [/B]
Indeed.
Honestly; Beyonder could (PR) could wreck anything this side of TOAA.
He slapped down Galactus like a gnat. He punked Celestials liked gnats.
Even Thanos w/IG had to put some time and effort into taking down MCEs (Galactus among others took him on, and put up a fight. Nothing put up a fight against PR Beyonder).
As I understand it, The Presence is DC's version of TOAA. Basically DC's top of the food chain "God" with a big "G."
If so- The Presence should hold that small step above "on-panel" omnipotence.
(I say on-panel, because TOAA is basically "the writer", and its power transcendence rests in the fact that no comic book character can trump the person holding the pencil. Thus conjecture that Stan Lee/Roger Stern/Etc. held the "character basis" for TOAA.)
If we exclude The Presence (and by necessity, also exclude beings that wield the power of The Presence)- then no one in DC should be able to stand up to Pre-Retcon Beyonder in power.
He was concept designed to be the next step below the writer himself.
That said...
Beyonder is omnipotent, but not "omniscient."
This is prime factor to consider.
You can mess with Beyonder's head. You can manipulate him. You can, given the right character and enough invested time, even convince him to go away.
That is his Achilles heel, IMO. His curiosity would get the best of him/it in a "Global Control" scenario.
Remember- he's not here to kill in this scenario; he is here to "rule." Ruling implies keeping things alive, and subservient. Interacting with them. That's where things get dangerous for the fledgling God.
In time, Beyonder's own penchant for taking holidays from himself would allow certain brilliant entities the "in" that they would need to help Beyonder destroy himself.
Force cannot win this battle for DC. But Beyonder is new to the pencil (so to speak). A voice in his ear can dictate what he writes. And what he erases. A strong enough voice could lead him to erase himself right out of DC continuity.
Originally posted by jaxthejester
Beyonder is omnipotent, but not "omniscient."A voice in his ear can dictate what he writes. And what he erases. A strong enough voice could lead him to erase himself right out of DC continuity.
Beyonder can't kill himself. He couldn't even destroy his presence in the multiverse.
To Jax in the whole beyonder being Omnipotent thing.
You're claiming an oxymoron. You can't be Omnipotent and not be and not be Omniscience.
Being Omnipotent makes you both Omnipresent and Omniscience. But you can't be Omnipotent and not be the other two.
You can be Omnipresent and Omniscience and not be Omnipotent, but not the other way around.
