Beyonder tries to take over DC Universe!!!

Started by Branlor Swift12 pages

Originally posted by Mr Master
While we can laugh at the nonsense in your scan,
we can also rest in the fact that,
that was all Beyonder writing his own story, making shit interesting for himself.

Shooter, during his final book as "Pre-Retcon" Beyonder,
explained how [b]everything that happened to Beyonder
,
every occurrence, positive or negative, was of Beyonder's own making lol. [/B]

That doesn't mean he powered anyone up, powered himself down, or let anyone do anything. It happened because he didn't kill everyone in the universe, not because he was orchestrating it.

Beyonder got his shit rocked by Doom because he got his shit rocked by Doom.

Originally posted by SquallX
To Jax in the whole beyonder being Omnipotent thing.

You're claiming an oxymoron. You can't be Omnipotent and not be and not be Omniscience.

Being Omnipotent makes you both Omnipresent and Omniscience. But you can't be Omnipotent and not be the other two.

You can be Omnipresent and Omniscience and not be Omnipotent, but not the other way around.

My bad. That was poor choice in wording.

Allow me to correct-

Beyonder is Omnipresent, but not Omniscient.

(I was confusing Omnipotent with Omnipresent in my word choice.)

Originally posted by Mr Master
Beyonder was omniscient. The only concept he could not understand was "desire."
Because he was all, had all, infinite, with no beginning or end.
(but for the purpose of making an interesting story, they didn't intently focus on this)

Beyonder can't kill himself. He couldn't even destroy his presence in the multiverse.

PR Molecule Man, along with the rest of Marvel Earth, once pushed an assault on Beyonder that had a chance of succeeding (words taken from Beyonder's own mouth).

That chance could not have occurred if Beyonder did not have limitations.

They may be self-limitations; but that does not exclude their relevance in this scenario.
That's why I call him a fledgling God. He's too new to the art of "writing his own comic."
Things get past him.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Beyonder was omniscient. The only concept he could not understand was "desire."
Oxymoron. One cannot be said to know all, if they do not know all.

^^ Comics books good friend. He was too infinite to understand limitation.

Anyway, one of many examples ... Beyonder displaying Omniscience:



Originally posted by Mindset

Nice scan, but Doom was seconds away from ripping Beyonder in half.


😐 ... ahh, you almost had me there. 😂
Originally posted by Branlor Swift

That doesn't mean he powered anyone up, powered himself down, or let anyone do anything. It happened because he didn't kill everyone in the universe, not because he was orchestrating it.


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Only, because he orchestrated it. Which makes sense considering he was
ridiculous times more powerful than all Marvel combined.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift

Beyonder got his shit rocked by Doom because he got his shit rocked by Doom.


... and the best screenplay goes to: Beyonder.
... heck, the only reason 616 Doom was even in Secret Wars I
was because Beyonder placed in the other's steed 2 Years later nearing the end of SWII.
Of course, 616 Doom was only repeating the actions of the non-
existent alternate Future-Doom, literally like a puppet on a string.
Originally posted by jaxthejester

PR Molecule Man, along with the rest of Marvel Earth, once pushed an assault on Beyonder that had a chance of succeeding (words taken from Beyonder's own mouth).

That chance could not have occurred if Beyonder did not have limitations.


By then, Beyonder not only didn't wanna destroy anything, but he didn't wanna hurt anyone either, heck, he didn't even wanna fight:




Beyonder stomped Owen and company cause they forced him to.

He doesn't want to fight in this thread either.

He wants to rule (per OP stips), rather than destroy. 😉

Originally posted by Mr Master
Only, because he orchestrated it. Which makes sense considering he was
ridiculous times more powerful than all Marvel combined.

... and the best screenplay goes to: Beyonder.
... heck, the only reason 616 Doom was even in Secret Wars I
was because Beyonder placed in the other's steed 2 Years later nearing the end of SWII.
Of course, 616 Doom was only repeating the actions of the non-
existent alternate Future-Doom, literally like a puppet on a string.

Severe twisting.
Him not allowing his mind to wander and destroy everything/reality warp doesn't mean he orchestrated anything.
And we also know for a fact that they weren't figments of his imagination either, so there's a lot of truth in his words I guess...

And Beyonder didn't have the foggiest dick who the Doom who rocked him was.

But yeah, good acting skills. He flew into a rage from Doom rocking him because he was acting

Originally posted by jaxthejester

You can mess with Beyonder's head. You can manipulate him. You can, given the right character and enough invested time, even convince him to go away.

That is his Achilles heel, IMO. His curiosity would get the best of him/it in a "Global Control" scenario.

Force cannot win this battle for DC. But Beyonder is new to the pencil (so to speak). A voice in his ear can dictate what he writes. And what he erases. A strong enough voice could lead him to erase himself right out of DC continuity.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Jeez, you don't even need Lucifer to trick him.

Luthor/Joker could do it, to name but two. Joker even has form. Constantine would absolutely twist him inside out.