Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
whathefukCan you, like, seriously, stop? There has been no evidence Reacher wins, so please, legit discussion here, I want someone to explain to me how he wins.
Ex Military, Rouge Badass, Expert Detective, has survived in over 15 books, has better hand to hand stopping power then John. Is a master in fighting multiple opponents at once, taken down bigger taller guys them himself, survived a gunfight with no run with a sniper on him. His blows break bones.
Originally posted by Supra
Ex Military, Rouge Badass, Expert Detective, has survived in over 15 books, has better hand to hand stopping power then John. Is a master in fighting multiple opponents at once, taken down bigger taller guys them himself, survived a gunfight with no run with a sniper on him. His blows break bones.
John has beaten current and ex military multiple times, is a rogue badass, an expert cop, has survived 5 movies, and John has put away much worse than Reacher has in H2H, and someone has yet to see DH4 or 5....
And as Rob said, in the MVF books, novels and comics aren't included. Otherwise every LOTR debate would be VERY short indeed.
Originally posted by Supra
Ex Military, Rouge Badass, Expert Detective, has survived in over 15 books, has better hand to hand stopping power then John. Is a master in fighting multiple opponents at once, taken down bigger taller guys them himself, survived a gunfight with no run with a sniper on him. His blows break bones.
You're aware that this is the movie vs forum and not movie and book forum, right?
Originally posted by Robtard
I tried telling him books don't count in the MVF already but he non sequitur response exploded all over me. It was delicious, imho.
I was posting books as a mere reference that the guy can survice, I know they don't count, its funny LOTR fans can come bring there books in here and they count when they say they count..but its never a two way streak for anyone else..
John cannot survive those bone breaking blows Jack puts out.
Originally posted by Supra
I was posting books as a mere reference that the guy can survice, I know they don't count, its funny LOTR fans can come bring there books in here and they count when they say they count..but its never a two way streak for anyone else..John cannot survive those bone breaking blows Jack puts out.
What's the point of a reference if it doesn't count. Anyhow. Moving on.
Proof McClane can't survive those blows? Cos there's shitloads of proof backing McClane's superhuman durability in DH1-5.
Originally posted by Robtard
What's the point of a reference if it doesn't count? Anyhow.Proof McClane can't survive those blows? Cos there's shitloads of proof backing McClane's superhuman durability in DH1-5.
Your confusing Bruce Willis in Unbreakable vs Bruce Willis the one who got his ass beat by a girl. This isn't a cross movie hybrid you dream up in your mind, he got pwned by a girl and had to hit her with her back turned to take her down.
Originally posted by Supra
I was posting books as a mere reference that the guy can survice, I know they don't count, its funny LOTR fans can come bring there books in here and they count when they say they count..but its never a two way streak for anyone else..John cannot survive those bone breaking blows Jack puts out.
That's the point though, books don't count for the movie forum so they can't be used as evidence of what Jack can survive.
Originally posted by Supra
Your confusing Bruce Willis in unbreakable vs Bruce Willis the one who got his ass beat by a girl.
A dodge to avoid showing proof of your claim.
Unless you've not seen DH1-5 where McClane survives unrealistic shit and are just assuming he's like a normal man? That's it, isn't it.
Originally posted by Robtard
A dodge to avoid showing proof of your claim.Unless you've not seen DH1-5 where McClane survives unrealistic shit and are just assuming he's like a normal man? That's it, isn't it.
Did he get his ass kicked by a girl and then he had to beat her down when she was not looking or not Rob? I'm pretty sure he did, do I need to re watch it again to prove it to you?
Originally posted by Robtard
A dodge to avoid showing proof of your claim.Unless you've not seen DH1-5 where McClane survives unrealistic shit and are just assuming he's like a normal man? That's it, isn't it.
Show me anything proving from any screen writer other then Unbreakable that he has been given special powers.
Originally posted by Supra
Show me anything proving from any screen writer other then Unbreakable that he has been given special powers.
What you're asking me is akin to "prove to me that Superman can fly".
Unless you've not actually seen any of the DH films and are under the assumption that's he's just a regular guy and everything he survives is realistic and grounded in reality, when it's that complete opposite of that. eg he survives a multi uranium fiery explosion in DH5 with having nothing more than the cover of a table. Then there's the well documented 'McClane Factor'.
Watch DH1-5 and then come here stating McClane can't survive some punches from Reacher 🙂
Originally posted by Robtard
What you're asking me is akin to "prove to me that Superman can fly".Unless you've not actually seen any of the DH films and are under the assumption that's he's just a regular guy and everything he survives is realistic and grounded in reality, when it's that complete opposite of that. eg he survives a multi uranium fiery explosion in DH5 with having nothing more than the cover of a table. Then there's the well documented 'McClane Factor'.
Watch DH1-5 and then come here stating McClane can't survive some punches from Reacher 🙂
How am I asking you to prove superman can fly, when he does fly and it is written that he can fly. Where is it written John is unbreakable as you think he is.
Originally posted by Supra
How am I asking you to prove superman can fly, when he does fly and it is written that he can fly.Where is it written John is unbreakable as you think he is.
Look up the word "akin".
Strawman argument: I didn't say McClane is "unbreakable", I stated that he has superhuman durability (durability above what a normal man could survive). This is supported by the unrealistic feats he survives across 5 films.
Now where's the proof to your claim that McClane couldn't survive Reacher's "blows"?
Originally posted by Robtard
Look up the word "akin".Strawman argument: I didn't say McClane is "unbreakable", I stated that he has superhuman durability (durability above what a normal man could survive). This is supported by the unrealistic feats he survives across 5 films.
Now where's the proof to your claim that McClane couldn't survive Reacher's "blows"?
I dare you to watch the whole thing