Jack Reacher versus John McClane

Started by Darkstorm Zero18 pages
Originally posted by Supra
How am I asking you to prove superman can fly, when he does fly and it is written that he can fly. Where is it written John is unbreakable as you think he is.

What he is saying, basically is that you are asking him to prove a point that is similar to that.

Admittedly, McClane's survivability is more vague than that, and it is a discussion we have had many times in 2 years, witness Lestov's wars with Rob and Sadako.

Basically put, John has, what I'd like to call, "the luck of the Irish." He constantly finds himself in incredibly shitty situations, where the odds are stacked so heavily against him, that it seems almost impossible to survive, nevermind pull a win. But in each case, he has walked away without permanent injury, and with a win under his belt.

I said it once before, John's luck is a double edged sword. It's his other factors that actually net him more wins than losses. People tend to look at the fight with the Ninja Chick as some sort of negative point, and I raised this with Quan once, before he turned it into a mysogynist and sexist ferris wheel. but Ninja Chick was highly skilled and heavily trained - military trained too. She had more actual combat skill than John did. The fact that John pulled a win on her is a positive, despite what the sexual detractors like Quan will bark at you.

Originally posted by Robtard
I've seen Reacher.

Now where's the proof that "John cannot survive those bone breaking blows Jack puts out."?

So now Johns knee's are unbreakable too and Jack breaking two people's knees and someone's hand in two different scenes.

So I guess John can take 007 down now too.

Originally posted by Supra
So now Johns knee's are unbreakable too and Jack breaking two people's knees and someone's hand in two different scenes.

So I guess John can take 007 down now too.

You're comparing the very realistic humans that Reacher beat the crap out of to McClane. That's a dishonest comparison.

That thread exist already; stop trying to bait me in there. It's childish.

Originally posted by Robtard
You're comparing the very realistic humans that Reacher beat the crap out of to McClane. That's a dishonest comparison.

That thread exist already; stop trying to bait me in there. It's childish.

John is a street cop, 007 and John Reacher have similar training and hand to hand combat ability, your the one being childish. Its a viable vs thread. If he can beat reacher then why can't you argue he can beat 007? How is 007 any stronger then Reacher?

Originally posted by Supra
John is a street cop, 007 and John Reacher have similar training and hand to hand combat ability, your the one being childish. Its a viable vs thread. If he can beat reacher then why can't you argue he can beat 007? How is 007 any stronger then Reacher?

Yes, McClane is detective who only ever does what normal detectives do. /derp

Bond is a MI6 operative. Reacher is an MP.

I advise you to watch DH1-5 before you debate any other 'McClane' threads. I also advise you to watch the Craig bond films and Jack Reacher again; playing closer attention this time.

Originally posted by Robtard
Yes, McClane is detective who only ever does what normal detectives do. /derp

Bond is a MI6 operative. Reacher is an MP.

I advise you to watch DH1-5 before you debate any other 'McClane' threads. I also advise you to watch the Craig bond films and Jack Reacher again; playing closer attention this time.

Nothing is going to convince you that reacher wins here, so lets up the ain't and see if he can take 007. This thread has turned into a flame war, im sick of it. Maybe we can all be more civilized in another thread. I will not post in here again.

Considering all you've done is make assertions without proof, correct, that will not convince me.

Originally posted by Robtard
Considering all you've done is make assertions without proof, correct, that will not convince me.

Supra: Stop being mean to me.

Originally posted by Robtard
Considering all you've done is make assertions without proof, correct, that will not convince me.
Proof has been posted and referenced. Reacher wins.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Proof has been posted and referenced.

Reacher wins.

Stop lying.

Based on?

Originally posted by Robtard
Stop lying.

Based on?

Remember you wanted this.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hcbximLcoyo

The same guy that Reacher was fighting was the same guy John was fighting FYI Rob.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Remember you wanted this.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hcbximLcoyo

I see a knee break and ball sack break in there two, I guess John's knees and balls are unbreakable as well.

Originally posted by Supra
I see a knee break and ball sack break in there two, I guess John's knees and balls are unbreakable as well.
The skill demonstrated here would destroy McClane. The guy gets his ass kicked in every film.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The skill demonstrated here would destroy McClane. The guy gets his ass kicked in every film.

I hand it to John he can take a beating from a girl pretty well, but when it comes to a skilled fighter which can systematically break parts of your body an will, John durability will fail. I have never seen him fight a skilled tactician such as 007 or Reacher to prove otherwise that he can survive those types of hits.

Originally posted by Supra
I hand it to John he can take a beating from a girl pretty well, but when it comes to a skilled fighter which can systematically break parts of your body an will, John durability will fail. I have never seen him fight a skilled tactician such as 007 or Reacher to prove otherwise that he can survive those types of hits.
John couldn't even beat her straight up he had to wait until she turned around. Awful.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Remember you wanted this.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hcbximLcoyo

While that scene is good and fun to watch, re-posting it after it failed last time is still a failure 🙂

You're implying that those drunken normal slobs that Reacher stomped are somehow equal to McClane, which is ridiculous if you've watched DH1-5 and even remotely paid attention to the damage his body can absorb and walk away from, not to mention the McClane Factor 🙂

ie you're basically using downplay tactics for McClane, cos you can't argue positively for Reacher here.

Originally posted by Robtard
While that scene is good and fun to watch, re-posting it after it failed last time is still a failure 🙂

You're implying that those drunken normal slobs that Reacher stomped are somehow equal to McClane, which is ridiculous if you've watched DH1-5 and even remotely paid attention to the damage his body can absorb and walk away from, not to mention the McClane Factor 🙂

ie you're basically using downplay tactics for McClane, cos you can't argue positively for Reacher here.

Showing the skill is far and away superior to John. He took on multiple opponents. Far less than Reacher have embarrassed Jonny boy.

Look at John absolutely dominated by a skilled opponent.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OXIcaOzFVeQ

1:15 in.

Skilled combatants absolutely embarrass him. Reacher dominates.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Showing the skill is far and away superior to John. He took on multiple opponents. Far less than Reacher have embarrassed Jonny boy.

Look at John absolutely dominated by a skilled opponent.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OXIcaOzFVeQ

1:15 in.

Skilled combatants absolutely embarrass him. Reacher dominates.

Great. You proved what everyone already knew here, that Reacher is a better skilled H2H fighter than McClane. You're a Master of the Obvious 👆

DH2; I know it well 🙂 McClane killed one Special Forces guy and tanked everything the other Special Forces guy could dish out, so Col. Stuart had to resort to a BFR tactics to escape McClane continually getting up and coming at him.

Thanks for proving my point 👆

Originally posted by quanchi112
Showing the skill is far and away superior to John. He took on multiple opponents. Far less than Reacher have embarrassed Jonny boy.

Look at John absolutely dominated by a skilled opponent.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OXIcaOzFVeQ

1:15 in.

Skilled combatants absolutely embarrass him. Reacher dominates.

He resorted to biting his hand to disarm him and still got his ass beat and thrown of the plane.