Dementors vs. Balrog

Originally posted by Robtard
Oh boy, more tears; you proved nothing. You're just asserting without proof. Anyhow.

Incorrect again, Quanci. Wizards are humans, they're humans who cast spells. In HP: Wizard = human with magical apptitude. Muggle = Human with no magical apptitude. You're welcome 🙂

Like I said, you don't even Potter. Did you even bother to skim the film wiki of Dementors I gave you? Seems you didn't. Drown in your ignorance; it's over.

No, they are wizards and their magical abilities make them different than muggles who doesn't have the power.

Their abilities are not stated to only work on human beings. You need prove not conjecture based off the books where they glide not fly so they are not Entitely the same.

Remember the wikis you post cover the books, this is the movie forum.

Movie feats only. You don't even know this board by now. You made a claim their abilities don't work on the Balrog so prove it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
if one possess possesses magic then they aren't a muggle. Their abilities make them different. It's like saying a mutant is a human. Sorry, kiddo.

No, they're a wizard and they are human, the only difference is having "magical blood" or whatever

Mutants are explicitly stated to be a different race

Also curious to see how you prove such horseshit

Originally posted by quanchi112
I proved that is his soul or spirit. I already knew the definition which is applied to but went the extra step and posted a clip verifying it.

No, they are wizards and their magical abilities make them different than muggles who doesn't have the power.

Their abilities are not stated to only work on human beings. You need prove not conjecture based off the books where they glide not fly so they are not Entitely the same.

Remember the wikis you post cover the books, this is the movie forum.

Movie feats only. You don't even know this board by now. You made a claim their abilities don't work on the Balrog so prove it.

That wasn't the issue, chimchim. What you need to prove is Sauron's disembodied spirit which can apparently move about and attack powerful wizards, is somehow the same as a human's soul in HP. Not that it matters, since Sauron isn't in this thread, but your butthurt/rage/hatred of the chatacter one again has you crying "Sauron, no!" 🙂

Incorrect again. They're both human. Having magical appitude in HP doesn't make a wizard suddenly stop being a human. None of your BS will change this fact. Harry Potter = human. Dumbledore = Human /dealwithit

😂 Fail. Gliding is a form of flying. You need to prove they can suck a non human's soul out. But first you have to prove that the Balrog has a soul to begin with and has happy thoughts, otherwise he'll be invisible to the Dementors.

That wiki link I gave references the film. Read the MVF rules already, how long have you been here now. READ THE WIKI AT LEAST; STOP POSTING FROM IGNORANCE.

Trying to shift the 'Burden of Proof' yet again, tells me you're cornered and you know it. You replied first "Dementors win" in here; you have yet to prove they can do anything to the Balrog, all you have is unsupported claims.

Originally posted by Robtard
That wasn't the issue, chimchim. What you need to prove is Sauron's disembodied spirit which can apparently move about and attack powerful wizards, is somehow the same as a human's soul in HP. Not that it matters, since Sauron isn't in this thread, but your butthurt/rage/hatred of the chatacter one again has you crying "Sauron, no!" 🙂

Incorrect again. They're both human. Having magical appitude in HP doesn't make a wizard suddenly stop being a human. None of your BS will change this fact. Harry Potter = human.

😂 Fail. Gliding is a form of flying. You need to prove they can suck a non human's soul out. But first you have to prove that the Balrog has a soul to begin with.

That wiki link I gave references the film. Read the MVF rules already, how long have you been here now. READ THE WIKI AT LEAST; STOP POSTING FROM IGNORANCE.

Incorrect and trying to shift the burden of proof again. You replied first "Dementors win" in here; you have yet to prove they can do anything to the Balrog, all you have is unsupported claims.

I never said all souls could do the same thing here. What made his soul able to do so was his connection to the ring aka his life force. Once the ring is destroyed he cannot interact with the physical plane. Voldemort's spirit was able to interact as well. He was also able to physically return as long as the Horcruxes were not destroyed.

No, as in the movie the nonmagical beings were known as muggles whereas the magical beings were witches and wizards.

Flying and gliding are not the same thing. The wiki you posted makes the distinction between the two. You are turning on your own link.

😆 😂

Their abilities still work. You need to prove they do not work on the Balrog.

The wiki link references the films at the end but throughout prior to it references the books.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
So you concede the spirit. Awesome.

I never said all souls could do the same thing here. What made his soul able to do so was his connection to the ring aka his life force. Once the ring is destroyed he cannot interact with the physical plane. Voldemort's spirit was able to interact as well. He was also able to physically return as long as the Horcruxes were not destroyed.

No, as in the movie the nonmagical beings were known as muggles whereas the magical beings were witches and wizards.

Flying and gliding are not the same thing. The wiki you posted makes the distinction between the two. You are turning on your own link.

😆 😂

Their abilities still work. You need to prove they do not work on the Balrog.

The wiki link references the films at the end but throughout prior to it references the books.

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And a strawman again. You're pathetic.

So you're full of bullshit and can't prove your claim. The One Ring is not a Horcrux. Rowling borrowing some ideas from Tolkein doesn't make the One Ring some HP object. Sauron's power and essence is tied to the ring; destroying it kills him. Destroying Horcrux's doesn't kill Voldermort.

And wizards and muggles are both still human. Deal with it already.

Gliding is still a form of flying, you ridiculous person grasping at nonsense and trying to deflect from the clownshow you've made of yourself in here again.

Another Burden of Proof shift. Go figure. Means you know you can't prove any of your claims.

Stew in your failures; have fun repeating your nonsense to someone else, if you're lucky to find someone who will listen 🙂

Originally posted by Robtard
And a strawman again. You're pathetic.

So you're full of bullshit and can't prove your claim. The One Ring is not a Horcrux. Rowling borrowing some ideas from Tolkein doesn't make the One Ring some HP object. Sauron's power and essence is tied to the ring; destroying it kills him. Destroying Horcrux's doesn't kill Voldermort.

And wizards and muggles are both still human. Deal with it already.

Gliding is still a form of flying, you ridiculous person grasping at nonsense and trying to deflect from the clownshow you've made of yourself in here again.

Another Burden of Proof shift. Go figure. Means you know you can't prove any of your claims.

Stew in your failures; have fun repeating your nonsense to someone else, if you're lucky to find someone who will listen 🙂

They share enough of the same functions to be compared. Both make a resurrection in another physical body possible. I agree the ring handicaps him far more than the Horcruxes to Voldemort. I mean just separating the ring kills Sauron. 😂

If you destroy all of Voldemort's Horcruxes he cannot come back. The difference is Sauron only has one which has to stay on his person at all times. Much easier to kill Sauron as all you have to do is knock the ring off. I am glad you agree the ring is a huge weakness for Sauron to live.

No, they aren't as ones that have magical power are different than muggles.

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I don't need to prove their abilities work. If your claim is that it doesn't work the claim falls on you.

😂 😂

Run like you always do in the end.

Both make a resurrection in another physical body possible

I agree the ring handicaps him far more than the Horcruxes to Voldemort. I mean just separating the ring kills Sauron.

As for the match

It was made, and it had not been destroyed,’ said Gandalf. ‘From the lowest dungeon to the highest peak it climbed, ascending in unbroken spiral in many thousand steps, until it issued at last in Durin’s Tower carved in the living rock of Zirakzigil, the pinnacle of the Silvertine.

‘There upon Celebdil was a lonely window in the snow, and before it lay a narrow space, a dizzy eyrie above the mists of the world. The sun shone fiercely there, but all below was wrapped in cloud. Out he sprang, and even as I came behind, he burst into new flame. There was none to see, or perhaps in after ages songs would still be sung of the Battle of the Peak.’ Suddenly Gandalf laughed. ‘But what would they say in song? Those that looked up from afar thought that the mountain was crowned with storm. Thunder they heard, and lightning, they said, smote upon Celebdil, and leaped back broken into tongues of fire. Is not that enough? A great smoke rose about us, vapour and steam. Ice fell like rain. I threw down my enemy, and he fell from the high place and broke the mountain-side where he smote it in his ruin. Then darkness took me, and I strayed out of thought and time, and I wandered far on roads that I will not tell.

The Balrog tear the dementors apart

Originally posted by Louis Cyphre
Wrong
The One Ring make Sauron stronger and capable of controlling the others rings of Power
Creating another physical body is a ability of any Ainur.

No it doesn't
Even after the events of LOTR Sauron is still alive but too weak to do anything

As for the match

Lord of the Rings; The Two Towers; Chapter Five - The White Rider

The Balrog tear the dementors apart

It made his resurrection to a body possible as well. It also gave him power over the rings.

It does handicap him since one needs to just separate the ring in order to kill him.

This is the film only. 😂

Based on ?

We don't even see the Balrog tear anyone apart making this claim that much more ridiculous.

It made his resurrection to a body possible as well.

It does handicap him since one needs to just separate the ring in order to kill him.

This is the film only.

Also
You're terrible at rebuttals

Dude, do you even rebuttal?

:uva

Originally posted by Louis Cyphre
Can you even read properly?
Sauron creating new bodies for himself have nothing to do with the One Ring

Sauron can't die
He however can have his body destroyed

You did not mention this fact on the OP
Saving face now?

Also
You're terrible at rebuttals

He does die. 😂

He doesn't even get his body back.

This is the movie version thread in which only movie feats apply. You poor thing.

😂

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Dude, do you even rebuttal?

:uva

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Dude, do you even rebuttal?

:uva

Come on now
Spitting the same bullshit like a broken record is a new form of debating.
Combine that with subpar knowledge on LOTR and you have the average HP fanboy.

Originally posted by Louis Cyphre
Come one now
Spitting the same bullshit like a broken record is a new form of debating.
Combine that with subpar knowledge on LOTR and you have you average HP fanboy.

Dementors win.

His life force is tied into the ring. Ignorance.

[quote]This is the movie version thread in which only movie feats apply. You poor thing.

You are still terrible at rebuttals BTW

Originally posted by quanchi112
You are to allowed to use book feats

Originally posted by Louis Cyphre
No
Great part of his [b]power is tied to the Ring, his lifeforce have nothing to do with it.
Thanks for confirming you are saving face now

You are still terrible at rebuttals BTW [/B]

2:30--2:35 or so in; HIS LIFEFORCE IS BOUND TO THE RING.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-UsrkoweVa4

Your ignorance disgusts me. I always back my claims when I see fit. I understand the films unlike you and most on here who have no clue about what they are talking about.

Evidence, kiddo. It always proves me right.

Originally posted by Louis Cyphre
I am allowed to use book feats? Okay then. :/

Read the rules. K. Thanks.

Ps. Watch the films. You clearly have no idea and are out of your element.

He didn't edit the quote, you edited your post, we can clearly the edit tag.

Meh, books are still higher canon

Your ignorance disgusts me.

I understand the films unlike you and most on here