Dementors vs. Balrog

Started by Epicurus6 pages

Originally posted by quanchi112
Wrong.

Not every time but when it goes into the events of the comic itself we don't automatically assume the dialogue was to mislead the reader.

Incorrect. There were other characters who hit him as well as the fact he was weakened and still not beaten. 😂

Context, Abhilegend. It has always been your silver bullet.

Looks at my post count and looks at your pathetic post count. Laughs.


I agree that you are wrong.

Special pleading fallacy. "It doesn't happen everytime, only in the the cases I want it to happen!" That's what your post sounds like. Not to mention that there were a whole bunch of unexplained stuff in that comic, like the cancerverse fiasco, or how the phuck did Thanos fail to notice that it was a fake cube, or the fact that Thor was getting owned by random Badoon weapons. Have you never read a Bendis comic? Or do I have to post the scan of Thanos getting kicked in his nuts by Rocket Racoon in order to convince you what an awful writer Bendis is?

We see Thor, Rulk and Hulk hit him. Same Thor and Rulk who were consistent jobbers during that period, and the same Hulk whom you claim can be beaten by Spider-Man. LOL.

Irony truly is your 2nd name, Wormtail.

Only thing that proves is that you don't have a real life beyond the internet. 😂

Originally posted by Epicurus
I agree that you are wrong.

Special pleading fallacy. "It doesn't happen everytime, only in the the cases I want it to happen!" That's what your post sounds like. Not to mention that there were a whole bunch of unexplained stuff in that comic, like the cancerverse fiasco, or how the phuck did Thanos fail to notice that it was a fake cube, or the fact that Thor was getting owned by random Badoon weapons. Have you never read a Bendis comic? Or do I have to post the scan of Thanos getting kicked in his nuts by Rocket Racoon in order to convince you what an awful writer Bendis is?

We see Thor, Rulk and Hulk hit him. Same Thor and Rulk who were consistent jobbers during that period, and the same Hulk whom you claim can be beaten by Spider-Man. LOL.

Irony truly is your 2nd name, Wormtail.

Only thing that proves is that you don't have a real life beyond the internet. 😂

No, you are wrong. You are always confused.

There is no always or never in pretty much inay regard but like I said the words weren't meant to confuse the reader. Does Thanos have to scream I have been weakened for you to get the point ? Chuckles.

This has nothing to do with the writer. Try to stay objective.

So you admit others hit a weakened Thanos. Progress.

It proves I am simply beyond you. Quit being emotional and lashing out due to the fact I have proven I am a legend whereas you are barely a footnote at this point.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Prove their powers only work on a human.

Gandalf is clearly not a human either. Lol at cha.

Right time for proper judgement. Sirius clearly mentions in one of the books that he was able to slip past the Dementors as a DOG since they weren't able to sense his emotions or thoughts in that form. Therefore this shows that Dementors have a lesser effect on non-human creatures.

Sure Dementors drain memories of happiness and thats where the snag is. Balrogs are not shown to have memories of happiness or even capable of showing happiness. In both movie and books, rage is the only thing they've been able to show far and MAYBE hints of fear. As for the soul sucking thing, we can't directly assume it works on a corrupted Maia like the Balrog since it is a demon in essence unlike a human who contains a soul in their body.

Dementors haven't been shown to be susceptible to damage either and as the HP wiki states, they're amortal beings meaning that they were never alive to begin with and that they can never die. They're just THINGS. Sentient abominations and bringers of fear only to some.
Obvious stalemate is obvious.

So in other words Durin's Bane still curbstomps? Good to know

Originally posted by StealthRanger
So in other words Durin's Bane still curbstomps? Good to know

Well if its Durin's Bane then yes. And as for Gothmog...well lets not go there because even Dementors need to be shown a bit of mercy at times. In other words, Gothmog slaughters them without difficulty.

Indeed, for someone like Gothmog would be way above the HPverse's ability to deal with

Originally posted by quanchi112
Then you'd know in the film no one is ever burned up by his weapons. Gandalf resists.

Dementors steal his soul and sap his memories.

The reason for Olórin's resistance is because (Spoiler Alert!) he bears the Ring of Power Narya, which was originally in the hands of Gil-Galad, who gave it to Círdan, who then gave it to Olórin. Being a Maiar (As is the Balrog,) certainly helps the matter as well.

Originally posted by Dramatic Gecko
Gandalf is a wizard.

Gandalf: I'm a what?

A wizard Gandalf.

Gandalf: But I'm just Gandalf.

Well just Gandalf, you're a Wizard.

The ****? Olórin is a Ainur, one of the beings that created the world. As a Maiar, he is a Angel or Demi God depending on opinions. He is not a wizard, that's just what humans refer to him as.

Originally posted by Robtard
And a strawman again. You're pathetic.

So you're full of bullshit and can't prove your claim. The One Ring is not a Horcrux. Rowling borrowing some ideas from Tolkein doesn't make the One Ring some HP object. Sauron's power and essence is tied to the ring; destroying it kills him. Destroying Horcrux's doesn't kill Voldermort.

And wizards and muggles are both still human. Deal with it already.

Gliding is still a form of flying, you ridiculous person grasping at nonsense and trying to deflect from the clownshow you've made of yourself in here again.

Another Burden of Proof shift. Go figure. Means you know you can't prove any of your claims.

Stew in your failures; have fun repeating your nonsense to someone else, if you're lucky to find someone who will listen 🙂

And destroying the Ring doesn't kill Mairon either. It just destroys his physical form.
Which sends him to Valinor into the hands of Námo (Better known as Mundas.) Mairon is in the void with his old master.

Gothmorg takes a dump on the Dementors.
Durin's Bane stomps.

Originally posted by King Ghidorah
Right time for proper judgement. Sirius clearly mentions in one of the books that he was able to slip past the Dementors as a DOG since they weren't able to sense his emotions or thoughts in that form. Therefore this shows that Dementors have a lesser effect on non-human creatures.

Sure Dementors drain memories of happiness and thats where the snag is. Balrogs are not shown to have memories of happiness or even capable of showing happiness. In both movie and books, rage is the only thing they've been able to show far and MAYBE hints of fear. As for the soul sucking thing, we can't directly assume it works on a corrupted Maia like the Balrog since it is a demon in essence unlike a human who contains a soul in their body.

Dementors haven't been shown to be susceptible to damage either and as the HP wiki states, they're amortal beings meaning that they were never alive to begin with and that they can never die. They're just THINGS. Sentient abominations and bringers of fear only to some.
Obvious stalemate is obvious.

Movies only obvious sock guy pining for my attention.

Originally posted by Kaldin
The reason for Olórin's resistance is because (Spoiler Alert!) he bears the Ring of Power Narya, which was originally in the hands of Gil-Galad, who gave it to Círdan, who then gave it to Olórin. Being a Maiar (As is the Balrog,) certainly helps the matter as well.

The ****? Olórin is a Ainur, one of the beings that created the world. As a Maiar, he is a Angel or Demi God depending on opinions. He is not a wizard, that's just what humans refer to him as.

And destroying the Ring doesn't kill Mairon either. It just destroys his physical form.
Which sends him to Valinor into the hands of Námo (Better known as Mundas.) Mairon is in the void with his old master.

Gothmorg takes a dump on the Dementors.
Durin's Bane stomps.

Movies only.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Movies only.

🙄
In the movie Gandalf talks about the 'Flame of Arnor.' Which is the power of his ring.
Movies are based after the book, thus book can still be used anyway. 🙂

Originally posted by Kadan
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In the movie Gandalf talks about the 'Flame of Arnor.' Which is the power of his ring.
Movies are based after the book, thus book can still be used anyway. 🙂
No, we use the films and since they veer outside of the books and it is against the rules it is a no go. Cry more, Tolkien dummy.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Movies only obvious sock guy pining for my attention.

You never stated in the OP it was movies only. Perhaps if had you read my post better, you would have seen me state that Balrogs only show rage and maybe a tiny bit of fear in both books and the MOVIE. In the scene of Gandalf vs Balrog, does that Balrog look jolly to you? Does it? No. Movies only? We've only seen the Balrog being angry in the movie so according to your logic, its never been happy.

Have we seen Dementors draining happiness from beings other than humans. Lolnope. Therefore you cannot automatically assume that their happiness sucking works on a cranky, huge fiery beast (Thats a corrupted Maia in the books but this is movies only).

Trounced with your own logic.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, we use the films and since they veer outside of the books and it is against the rules it is a no go. Cry more, Tolkien dummy.

Lol, you don't read well do you.
I said in the MOVIE!
Blast.
You smocking weed or what? 😮‍💨