Gogeta vs Vegetto

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
The only time Gogeta ever stated that was in a video game. Going by the OP, yeah Gogeta wins, but in a fair fight, he loses. Why can you go giving Gogeta random powers and abilities he doesn't have, but not Vegetto? Why not let Vegetto go SSJ2 since Gogeta is permanent? That's not fair at all, and you just need to make shit up like that to save your favorite character from a loss. That's like someone making a thread with Naruto against Goku where Naruto can use all jutsu ever invented and Goku is five years old and doesn't know any martial arts or ki and can't really do anything.

I win again.

I said right here they fight in their highest forms, both being Super Saijens.

Originally posted by Supra
Highest Form's being SS Gotega vs SS Vegetto

Vegetto Facts
1. If he was the most powerful warrior ever created and the fusion was permanent, how did Buu override it. (Logic failed)
2. If he was so powerful why did he have to test his powers out and let Buu wreck him for like 20 minutes before he got serous.
3. If he was so powerful why did he not win?

Gogeta Facts
1. Fusion is superior because it does not have to be permanent and both characters can live on separately.
2. Gogeta has never lost a fight.
3. Gogeta did not have to test his powers out at all, he got down to business and defeated Janemba within a minute. Janemba could not even sense his movements.
4. Gogeta beat Janemba without breaking a sweat. And he summoned a spirit bomb in seconds. Something Vegetto was never shown to be able to do which is the most powerful attack in the universe.

Originally posted by Supra
Prove I made it with a clear stated winner, the more we debated it the more I realized Gogeta was Superior. Infact I was hoping SSGogeta was going to side with Gogeta and I was going to side with Vegetto but the facts are the facts and I will state them again.

If someone had proved beyond a reasonable doubt that Vegetto was stronger I would have sided with the facts, there are no facts to prove Vegetto is stronger.

You can side with canon vs non canon all day but it means little to me, its all Dragon Ball Z and Janemba was made by Akira. It' cannon.

Vegetto Facts
1. If he was the most powerful warrior ever created and the fusion was permanent, how did Buu override it. (Logic failed)
2. If he was so powerful why did he have to test his powers out and let Buu wreck him for like 20 minutes before he got serous.
3. If he was so powerful why did he not win?

Gogeta Facts
1. Fusion is superior because it does not have to be permanent and both characters can live on separately.
2. Gogeta has never lost a fight.
3. Gogeta did not have to test his powers out at all, he got down to business and defeated Janemba within a minute. Janemba could not even sense his movements.
4. Gogeta beat Janemba without breaking a sweat. And he summoned a spirit bomb in seconds. Something Vegetto was never shown to be able to do which is the most powerful attack in the universe.

You cannot argue those facts and if you try to you are the one trolling me. And since you troll me in every thread I create, I would watch who you report. Every thread I create you are against me and up in arms, so what does that make you?

Vegetto facts

1. He allowed Buu to absorb him so he could free his friends before killing Buu. Old Kai said that Buu's biology dissolved the fusion, not Buu's ki overpowered the fusion.

2. Vegetto toyed with Buu to get him angry enough to resort to absorption, so he could free the others. He also wanted to show Buu how weak he was compared to him.

3. Vegetto accomplished exactly what he wanted to without getting injured even slightly. Sounds like he won to me.

Gogeta facts

1. That is your opinion. This is also fusions biggest weakness and, as explained by the old Kai, would make Gogeta inferior to Vegetto, simply because of the time limit.

2. Hercule has never officially lost a fight either. I guess that means he could also beat Vegetto, and fight on par with Gogeta, no? As everyone on this thread has stated at least once, your logic is flawed. Unless you're also arguing that Hashirama would beat Vegetto and Gogeta, which would make you look even more ridiculous than you already do.

3. Gogeta didn't test out his powers because Janemba could have evolved to defeat him if he did. This was stated in the Daizenshuu.

4. Gogeta stomped someone much weaker than him, because he was afraid he would lose otherwise. You have no proof that was a spirit bomb, as it was as big as a baseball and it was crushed into a dust type structure that dissolved the evil in Janemba. That was an original technique that he made on the spot so as to not kill the ogre teen that Janemba was originally.

What you posted were not facts, but opinions, observations from you, and flat out lies//mistruths. You are trolling everyone here, and you will be reported by me as well.

Make sure to report yourself here too as Imp said to stop the bashing and you continued today with this..ur up for a ban here after he told you directly to stop the bashing, Good Luck with the report and banning.

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta

I live on Earth obviously. You apparently live in your own fabricated world of delusion where GT is cannon and I'M the retard in this equation. Go **** your mother some more please, dipshit, and leave the debating to adults.

Originally posted by Supra
Make sure to report yourself here too as Imp said to stop the bashing and you continued today with this..ur up for a ban here after he told you directly to stop the bashing, Good Luck with the report and banning.

When did I bash? I called you no names at all in my entire post, and I claimed your logic to be "ridiculous", which it is. You might as well say Naruto is at the most a small house buster, as he's never busted more. Imp said no more bashing, and I have abided by that rule. You being defenseless in an argument you started against me based on your own ignorant opinion and lies that you sprouted while futilely attempting to twist my words against me(by only acknowledging parts of my debates), does not constitute me bashing you, or anyone else on here.

Good luck with the report and banning.~ 😉

Here's your lies revealed..I guess this isn't bashing or name calling at me at all after the mod told you to stop.

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta

I live on Earth obviously. You apparently live in your own fabricated world of delusion where GT is cannon and I'M the retard in this equation. Go **** your mother some more please, dipshit, and leave the debating to adults.

Originally posted by Supra
Based on?

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Originally posted by Based
It's fan opinion to ignore what the Elder Kai has said but he blatantly says their rivalry was a partial reason of why it's strong.

It's possible the dance has this but it has never been commented at all so you can't prove it. And even if you want to debate this to death, it's moot. There are still multiple statements attributing the Potara as superior never mind the fact that Goku has to power down to reach Vegeta's level when that's absolutely not an issue for Potara.

Superior. Not stronger. Lack of a time limit or need of a perfectly executed dance and equal power levels would make potara better.

If you have concrete evidence that potara makes a stronger fused warrior, then please post it.

Rival. Boost.

Potara was stated to give this. Dance was not. That alone would result in a more powerful fusion. Simple.

Originally posted by Galan007
Rival. Boost.

Potara was stated to give this. Dance was not. That alone would result in a more powerful fusion. Simple.

No, Potara was NOT said to give this. You can infer that's what he meant, but he never said the rival boost had ANYTHING to do with the method of fusion.

I DID MY PART TO HELP. ( I don't want to hear how it's blurry either, I'm exhausted and just did some quick net searching, sue me >:c )

Someone else has to decode this stuff, idk what it says I took 0 foreign languages back in highschool lmao.

Originally posted by cdtm
No, Potara was NOT said to give this. You can infer that's what he meant, but he never said the rival boost had ANYTHING to do with the method of fusion.

What else is it supposed to mean? If nothing was supposed to happen then he wouldn't have pulled it out of his ass for no reason. And as I said before you can debate that to death all you want because the dance still requires Goku to power down to reach Vegeta's level.

He does not have to do that with Potara. No one has even begun to debate this part.

Why does everyone worship the Portara ring when it has like zero actual feats? Cmon people, be reasonable here, I would be down to root for Portara if it was actually worth rooting for, it was complete garbage in its showing!

1. Said fusion was permanent. Buu proved otherwise
2. Said was the most powerful warrior ever created. Hmm, SS1 Goku re powered was stronger and actually beat Buu.
3. SS3 Showed way more fighting ability minus power drain.
4. No feats worth mentioning..

Originally posted by cdtm
Superior. Not stronger. Lack of a time limit or need of a perfectly executed dance and equal power levels would make potara better.

If you have concrete evidence that potara makes a stronger fused warrior, then please post it.

Originally posted by cdtm
No, Potara was NOT said to give this. You can infer that's what he meant, but he never said the rival boost had ANYTHING to do with the method of fusion.

You fcking ROCK! Finally someone who has there head on straight!! He see's the truth people accept it and move on and quit worshiping something that has crap for feats!

Originally posted by Yamcha

I DID MY PART TO HELP. ( I don't want to hear how it's blurry either, I'm exhausted and just did some quick net searching, sue me >:c )

Someone else has to decode this stuff, idk what it says I took 0 foreign languages back in highschool lmao.

What is this source? It says literally (referring to the potara rings): This fusion surpasses in power the one invented by the Métamols.

The first mark in red explains that the dance fusion was invented by those Métamols.

Originally posted by Bentley
What is this source? It says literally (referring to the potara rings): This fusion surpasses in power the one invented by the Métamols.

The first mark in red explains that the dance fusion was invented by those Métamols.

Originally posted by Supra
You fcking ROCK! Finally someone who has there head on straight!! He see's the truth people accept it and move on and quit worshiping something that has crap for feats!

I'll ask again, can someone actually BEGIN to debate the point that Goku has to power down to do the dance where he does not have to with Potara.

It'd appalling how you haven't been banned yet.

Originally posted by cdtm
No, Potara was NOT said to give this. You can infer that's what he meant, but he never said the rival boost had ANYTHING to do with the method of fusion.

No such amp was mentioned in reference to the dance, therefore we CANNOT assume it gets a rival boost as well. This is as simple as it gets.

Originally posted by Based
I'll ask again, can someone actually BEGIN to debate the point that Goku has to power down to do the dance where he does not have to with Potara.

It'd appalling how you haven't been banned yet.

I am also shocked he isn't banned.

Originally posted by Galan007

I am also shocked he isn't banned.

SS Gogeta was banned, think you got us confused.

And this is the truth about portal boost

Based on this Galan

Originally posted by cdtm
When was it stated the potara multiplied power?

Power levels needing to be reduced/equalized pre fusion doesn't necessarily prove their combined powers are similarly restricted after they become a single, unified being.

Originally posted by cdtm
When was it stated the potara multiplied power?

Power levels needing to be reduced/equalized pre fusion doesn't necessarily prove their combined powers are similarly restricted after they become a single, unified being.

Originally posted by Supra
SS Gogeta was banned, think you got us confused.

And this is the truth about portal boost

Based on this Galan

I didn't get banned, lol. Again, this thread is pointless btw.

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
I didn't get banned, lol. Again, this thread is pointless btw.

Your account wasn't temp banned, lol more lies.